Winter Wreaks Wild (wip): UD 2/11 Further Adventures of the Caping Crusader

[Silent Invader]

Do you mind sharing some of your secrest for the build?  I'm really curious now that they're 100% done, what is your opinion about the technique you used for the cloaks? They look great and you did a very nice job of making them look windblown.  How do they feel from a durability standpoint? 

No probs 

I liked the cloak technique as folding the paper, though initially quite fiddly, gave me a framework that readily represented a cloak, which made the surface sculpting so much easier.  A metal or foil sheet wouldn't have the rigidity that superglue-soaked-paper takes on for the windblown effect, nor would sheets of putty, so both metal and putty would have required much back-filling for reinforcement.

The technique is messy (superglue fingers!) but probably quicker than the other alternatives.  The greenstuff takes to the cured superglue extremely well and the completed cloaks seem to be really robust.  I had to be careful when washing them before painting, as any paper that isn't reinforced with soaked in superglue disintegrated leaving holes (though some I left it as wear and tear). 

Obviously there are more health and safety implications with the superglue and paper combination, including fumes and heat as they react.

At some later stage I will expand the forces and I expect I will be using the same technique on any more metal minis.  However, i don't think it will work for plastics and so when the Perry Agincourt Multiparts come out I will need to find a solution for them (I'd prefer styrene but vac-forming won't provide enough detail so I'm wondering about plasticard soaked in some sort of solvent, moulded into place, then hardenened off as it drys).  The thing is, I want every cloak to be specific to the pose of the actual mini, so with that in mind I don't think I'd gain anything by casting them in say resin.

[Too Bo Coo]

No probs 

I liked the cloak technique as folding the paper, though initially quite fiddly, gave me a framework that readily represented a cloak, which made the surface sculpting so much easier.  A metal or foil sheet wouldn't have the rigidity that superglue-soaked-paper takes on for the windblown effect, nor would sheets of putty, so both metal and putty would have required much back-filling for reinforcement.

The technique is messy (superglue fingers!) but probably quicker than the other alternatives.  The greenstuff takes to the cured superglue extremely well and the completed cloaks seem to be really robust.  I had to be careful when washing them before painting, as any paper that isn't reinforced with soaked in superglue disintegrated leaving holes (though some I left it as wear and tear). 

Obviously there are more health and safety implications with the superglue and paper combination, including fumes and heat as they react.

At some later stage I will expand the forces and I expect I will be using the same technique on any more metal minis.  However, i don't think it will work for plastics and so when the Perry Agincourt Multiparts come out I will need to find a solution for them (I'd prefer styrene but vac-forming won't provide enough detail so I'm wondering about plasticard soaked in some sort of solvent, moulded into place, then hardenened off as it drys).  The thing is, I want every cloak to be specific to the pose of the actual mini, so with that in mind I don't think I'd gain anything by casting them in say resin.

Cheers Steve!

[rumacara]

Steve if you go for plasticard with solvent do it in a open area because it frees some vapors like superglue.
If you use very thin plasticard try to heat untill shaped instead of using solvent.
It takes more time but you can control the stages.

About using green stuff in plastic minis its ok depending on the thickness you wich to give to the cloak.
I´ve tried and the result its not bad but not so thin as yours and the effect you gave its more "flying" than mine.
These are the words of a curious person and by no means an expert but i did tried the green stuff and the plasticard. The expert its you and i´m learning a lot with your work.

Wonderfull work both with the miniatures and the board.

[Silent Invader]

Thanks that's all useful advice. 

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, more an experimenter (which is really a polite way of saying bodger!)

[rumacara]

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, more an experimenter (which is really a polite way of saying bodger!)

We both are...

[Silent Invader]

 

Something that I am working on is the iced over lake (think King Arthur) which will have lift out sections to expose the water beneath.

The planned layout for the ice



.... Was emailed to our very own Jimbibbly aka James of Oshiro Terrain, laser-meister-extraordinaire, and he kindly cut this (it's clear acrylic, the white is a protective film)....



.....and James also cut some shards that will be used as broken ice that is floating in the water, fitted beneath the removable ice sheet it will be revealed when the ice sheet is lifted out.....



More soon  

Ps: oh, and I also found some 15mm dia clear acrylic discs that James cut some time back - they'll get blood spatter as wolf feeding points

[OSHIROmodels]

Ps: oh, and I also found some 15mm dia clear acrylic discs that James cut some time back - they'll get blood spatter as wolf feeding points

Ooo, the things I do for you 

cheers

Dave

[Constable Bertrand]

Very nice. Good to see you taking care of our mate Steve James.

This is a dumb question. A frozen lake is flat. How will you lift out the sections? They look rather snug.

Cheers
Matt

[Too Bo Coo]

Very nice. Good to see you taking care of our mate Steve James.

This is a dumb question. A frozen lake is flat. How will you lift out the sections? They look rather snug.

Cheers
Matt

MAGIC!

[Constable Bertrand]

MAGIC!

Oh, that's fine then. Carry on.


Matt

[Too Bo Coo]

Oh, that's fine then. Carry on.


Matt

Sorry, couldnt resist!    

I'm actually quite curious how Steve is going to work this out.  I have a few ideas, but I'm not sure how practical they are.  I'm a very big fan of his various projects!

[Malamute]

Excllent idea, can't wait to see this latest addition come together

[Silent Invader]

Now THAT's magic!

(In the style of Paul Daniels)

 

Seriously, it's a good question. 

I expect that I will portray the ice as having a thin covering of snow.  Amongst that for each lift out piece I need to embed something that will function as a small handle and I have in mind a piece of twig to suggest a floating tree branch that has become iced in. An alternative might be an iced-in carcass: other suggestions are very welcome

[rumacara]

Steve, if you have the movie King Arthur do see the part in the ice where the saxons are falling in the ice for ideas.
Breaking ice blocks specially.

[Silent Invader]

Steve, if you have the movie King Arthur do see the part in the ice where the saxons are falling in the ice for ideas.
Breaking ice blocks specially.

Cheers - yeah King Arthur is an influence for this and I have the freshly purchased DVD sat in the 'too watch'