(KICKSTARTER) DUST TACTICS Operation Babylon

[Redmao]

The "backers" gave money to get the product made, period.
It's not a pre-order system.  Stop thinking it is.
Getting stuff from the KS is a bonus, not the point.

Backers pledge to get something out of it, not just get the product made.
May it be exclusive items or more stuff for their buck, but a KS campaign without incentive is doomed to fail.

In the case of this campaign, it was just a big pre-order service. It was advertised as a way to release more models faster than by going the usual way and it turned out to be a huge mess.
Both are well established companies that didn't need to go to crowdfunding to release their new models, but they chose to simply to get the money faster.
Instead of focusing on producing the models, they took care of an old debt that had nothing to do with the backers.
Both are now in dispute as to who will pay for the not so free items promised to the backers.

Don't want to give more stuff in your campaign, fine, but don't advertise that you will and change your mind halfway through.

[General M@yhem]

Whilst many are still waiting on their KS stuff, myself included, I notice that Dust are slowly trickling out new releases of said KS stuff. I can live with that, after all there's bills to pay etc, but the prices of the 'new' walkers etc are 50% higher than they were before. I daren't even comment on the Dust FB page as I'm pretty sure I'd get lambasted and banned for being a 'troll'. I really loved Dust and I've still got a load of it but it's really starting to bug me how much we seem to be getting shafted by Dust Studios. The 'freebie' stuff still hasn't been resolved and now you're paying top whack prices. One of the reasons I was drawn to Dust by the reasonable pricing of the products. Now I'm just not sure I can maintain the love. 

[Weird WWII]

Agreed, its a messy situation that no one seems to be taking any real gains to resolve.

It's to bad,
Brian

[obsidian3d]

Yeah I once again got rather upset as, over the weekend, I saw several of the items owed me sitting on the shelves at one of my local game shops. WTF?!

[Redmao]

The KS stuff is starting to pop up online at various stores.

[Devoted of Slaanesh]

Was in Essen and talked to the guy who's in charge for Europe in BF. He told me that the ship will be in UK 19.10 and things in it will be send early November. Didn't specify what's in it. Said that they are negotiating final deal with DS and he was positive that backers will get all items as per KS deals including SG.
One day...

[General M@yhem]

Was in Essen and talked to the guy who's in charge for Europe in BF. He told me that the ship will be in UK 19.10 and things in it will be send early November. Didn't specify what's in it. Said that they are negotiating final deal with DS and he was positive that backers will get all items as per KS deals including SG.
One day...

Here's hoping.

[obsidian3d]

That kind of information would be f-ing great to actually share with the backers. It's been WEEKS since we got any kind of communication from either side. They already have our money though, so why worry about all those pissed off people right?

[General M@yhem]

That kind of information would be f-ing great to actually share with the backers. It's been WEEKS since we got any kind of communication from either side. They already have our money though, so why worry about all those pissed off people right?

Got an e-mail from Dust studios offering me a 'Great' deal to get the pit model for 'free' if I bought one of the new starter sets containing figs that I've already paid for and am still waiting on. Oh, and it has a new figure that you can only get as part of the starter set. Not really sure if Dust have got the Backers' interests at heart.

[obsidian3d]

I got that 'offer' too and promptly wrote them back that they should be ashamed of themselves for thinking that in anyway was appropriate. I haven't heard from them since.

[Predatorpt]

New "update". Still don't know if I'm going to receive anything...

The Wave 2 stocks have arrived in our UK warehouse and we are about to start filling the UK, European and the ROW (Rest Of World) orders.
As we said in our previous update to keep things fair we will be shipping all Wave 3 stocks direct to the UK to fulfill your orders first, and then on to the USA.

[Redmao]

Wave 3...
Wave 2 was barely delivered and most of those orders were far from being complete so I don't think anyone has any big expectations for a 3rd wave at this point.

[Predatorpt]

This is all the stuff I'm still waiting for:

D309 Königslothar *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D420 Sergei Shtemenko *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D421 Aleksandr Vasilevsky *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D511 Devastator *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D601 Sisters of Demolition *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D912A Babylon Axis Decal Sheet *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D912B Babylon SSU Decal Sheet *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D912C Babylon Allied Decal Sheet *** OUT OF STOCK ***
D912C Babylon Allied Decal Sheet *** OUT OF STOCK ***
DKS304 Sturmleopold (aka Jagdleopold) Arms *** OUT OF STOCK ***
DKS307 Axis Free Upgrade Pack (added) *** OUT OF STOCK ***

Both Dust Studios and Battlefront can't give me a straight answer to a simple question - what will I get in Wave 2 and what will I get in Wave 3?

[Redmao]

The update told us what we already knew.
Still no new concrete information about the development of this big mess. They already said that EU/RoW would get Wave 3 first, but will there even be a wave 3? If so, when?
Have they officially reached an agreement or are they both still dreaming about a miraculous solution?

[obsidian3d]

I'm still waiting on two of my three armies, the freebies that go with them, the decals and dice for all three of the armies. Yeah, I don't have dice to for the game...so I can't play even if I wanted to.