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Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #75 on: 09 August 2014, 07:05:54 AM »

I expect they offer up considerable opportunities to kit bashing with the existing boxed sets to create less well armed troops, such as armoured legs for a brigandine wearing man at arms or retinue archer...
I didn't even think about that!  :o
Ok I will put an order in.
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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #76 on: 09 August 2014, 08:11:37 AM »
As much as I love my Front Rank WotR figures,  the opportunities the Perry plastic range offers has me sort of wishing I could revisit the period in plastic.  :(

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #77 on: 09 August 2014, 08:55:24 AM »
I'd like some. Lord of the Isles and all that?

So would I :) The wish list is huge :D
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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #78 on: 09 August 2014, 11:55:13 AM »
I'm not so sure that it would be prudent to produce Scottish Lowland troops of the sort that Margaret (probably) had in her army as they wouldn't look so different from the English troops as you know Arlequin.

The devil is in the detail, Northern English and Scots troops would obviously look slightly more rugged and less effete than their Southern counterparts.
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Joking apart, I think it's largely a case of 'poorer' looking rank and file, which could be covered by a 'Levy' set. The current WotR Infantry do cover a wide range of 'social classes' as it is, but the bulk of them strike me as being quite up to date in fashion terms for the time. I could be wrong but I imagine that the more rural parts of England, the North and the Scots Lowlands 'might' look a bit dated and scruffy.

How far you could go down this route by mixing and matching with a HYW Infantry set remains to be seen. The Perrys are of course very much into all things Medieval, so if there is anything approaching a glaring omission, they are already aware of it, so anything I might say is actually redundant really.

I'm pretty sure you're right with the other minorities, Mortimer's Cross and Stoke Field both saw large numbers of 'Irish troops', of which a reasonable number might have been 'English' from the Pale and I can't see enough call for the 'native types' to warrant the expense of producing a plastic set.    

I have no doubt that further plastics for the HYW period will be forthcoming and what would a French Army be without massed ranks of French Men at Arms? I would imagine that the range will probably expand to around the same size as the WotR one myself.
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The 10% ratio is fine for bigger battles, but you'd expect that to shift significantly to the right if you're doing a skirmish game based on a confrontation between magnates' military households.

Most definitely! I doubt that the 'professionals' and 'semi-professionals' within a noble's household and those of his retainers, would be that vastly different in composition to comparable and more formally organised continental 'lances'.

So a 'Knight', a slightly less well-equipped 'second' (who in many cases appear to have been an archer rather than a 'lesser-man at arms') and between 1-3 archers, all mounted - at least for travel purposes, is probably the ratio we are talking about as the core of any WotR force.

Once you start adding in recruited or indentured companies of infantry then the ratio shifts. However the general ratio of 'Men at Arms' to 'others' across NW Europe at this time ranges between 1:7-1:10, so the English were hardly unique in this respect.

Nevertheless as you say, depending on situation and circumstance, 'every' engagement did not involve the full range of troop types in their overall ratios, whether in the WotR or Continental wars.

... Captain Blood still needs more archers though.  ;)
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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #79 on: 09 August 2014, 12:38:32 PM »
... Captain Blood still needs more archers though.  ;)

True. I am woefully 'under-bowed' :?

Painting longbowmen is just so darned boring :D

When the HYW English set comes out, I will definitely hybridise a few with various other plastic parts, to create some 'lower order' longbowmen in older kit, as you describe...

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #80 on: 09 August 2014, 02:22:35 PM »
True. I am woefully 'under-bowed' :?

Painting longbowmen is just so darned boring :D


Outrageous - we're definitely going to fall out  ;)

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #81 on: 09 August 2014, 02:39:29 PM »
Outrageous - we're definitely going to fall out  ;)

Fight fight fight  :D

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #82 on: 20 August 2014, 04:05:53 PM »
I apologize if there's a proper thread about, but i don't understand the pre-order thing on the perry website: it says 20£ plus shipping, but when i am going to pay on payPal the total cost is less than 17£...
Is there any discount that i didn't see for  the pre-order?

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #83 on: 20 August 2014, 04:09:23 PM »
Hmmm. That's strange. They definitely took £20 for my Pre-order via PayPal... Maybe there's a special Italian discount?  :)

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #84 on: 20 August 2014, 04:23:40 PM »
Hmmm. That's strange. They definitely took £20 for my Pre-order via PayPal... Maybe there's a special Italian discount?  :)

Maybe there's a canadian one! (i'll stay in Canada for another 5 days)...
Anyways, i think i will wait for the official release! :)

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #85 on: 20 August 2014, 05:18:02 PM »
Maybe there's a canadian one! (i'll stay in Canada for another 5 days)...
Anyways, i think i will wait for the official release! :)

 >:D >:D

The luck of the Canadians/Italians  :D

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Offline Gandalf the G

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #86 on: 20 August 2014, 06:05:34 PM »
I think if you order from anywhere outside the UK, it is without some tax. I pre-ordered a box some weeks ago, and paid 17£ per box, or something like that. It cancelled out the postage, basically.

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #87 on: 20 August 2014, 06:11:05 PM »
I think if you order from anywhere outside the UK, it is without some tax. I pre-ordered a box some weeks ago, and paid 17£ per box, or something like that. It cancelled out the postage, basically.

I just tried to go till the end of the order, just before clicking the "placing order" is 23.70£.

still a very cheap price, but i don't see why not to wait a month and look at the first reviews. :)

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #88 on: 20 August 2014, 08:32:01 PM »
Because you know the reviews are going to be great?  ;)

Enjoy the rest of your stay in Canada. You'll be glad to get home I expect  :)

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Re: Perry Plastic Men-At Arms Box Cover Art
« Reply #89 on: 24 August 2014, 07:06:08 AM »
Prices on the Perry site include VAT, which is deducted during ordering for those who don't have to pay it. For the US, VAT is roughly equivalent to shipping.

I forget this every time I order... and every time I get a pleasant surprise when I see the total.  lol

 

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