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Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #810 on: 29 December 2021, 12:46:18 PM »
Lovely work, Stuart - very impressed.  Any chance these could appear as "dollies" via Steel Fist, and are you making any more such figures generally?

Do you know what proportion of the 1513 army wore the Tudor smock you have modelled?  Also, is the colour scheme your interpretation, or does it have supporting evidence?  The reason I ask is that  Helion has just produced a book entitled "The Tudor Arte of Warre, Volume 1" which shows a similar smock, but halved white and green, rather than being all white with green trim.  Is this just another interpretation of what the smock might have looked like?  Could both versions have co-existed?

As you know, I use the Field of Glory: Renaissance (FoG:R) rules.  I'm not sure how familiar you are with them, but they have specific rules for "dragoons" (function as "light troops"; mixed movement rates depending on whether firing or riding and how close the enemy are) and I think the definition suits these chaps rather well, but the "rules committee" refuses to allow that - or even permit their presence on the table!  (We have discussed similar "exclusions" in the past, some of which they have - reluctantly - agreed to!)  Your thoughts?
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Offline Stuart

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #811 on: 29 December 2021, 01:03:33 PM »
Thanks very much

There’s always a possibility but I think it’s presently beyond my current capabilities. I agree they would be useful though.

Re appearence those on the border were described as wearing white coats whereas those in livery tend to be a feature of more well off captains.

There’s a Venetian source which describes those in the french campaign of 1513: soldiers sailors and labourers in coats of green and white.

Also an imperial source which describes all in white coats fringed with green. There are English sources which state the same (Percy’s retinue for example).

Coat money was provided by the state but there was no stipulation regarding cut. Badges were allowed but this was from the retinue leader’s funds.

For this unit I blended all of the above so I can use them for Scots and French battles.

Re the rules I have always used them as a guide and add further additions to give a period feel per the campaign/scenario. Rigidity is unfortunate but if you can get a consensus i think you can make for some interesting games. Using dragoon rules would fit. There’s plenty of references to their use in this manner.

Offline MaleGriffin

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #812 on: 29 December 2021, 03:37:53 PM »
Absolutely magnificent brushwork! These figures are some of the best I've ever seen!
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Offline Anderson Collection

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #813 on: 29 December 2021, 03:38:56 PM »
Brilliant :-* :-*

Offline Hupp n at em

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #814 on: 07 January 2022, 07:30:11 PM »
Have you done a group shot of all these lovely conversions yet?  :-* You've got quite the collection now!

Offline Stuart

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Re: Perry Tudor Conversions, Mounted Archers, page 54
« Reply #815 on: 07 January 2022, 08:05:12 PM »
I don’t think I do, there’s shots of them in action in various games on my friend Oli’s blog here http://camisado1500s.blogspot.com/?m=1

 

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