Frostgrave Cultists, the 2nd box set of plastic figures.

[Ray Earle]

Yes, more metals.

A new wizard class and new Soldier types, models made by Giorgio Bassani, Trolls and Giants from Mike Owen and evil Soldier variants from Mark Copplestone

Any chance they'll be alternative sculpts for wizards and apprentices somewhere down the line Nick?

I know there are wizards everywhere (apparently) but the team you got together to do the original 10 schools were pretty awesome and it would be nice to see them produce some more wizards for the game.

[Annie]

That is the Lich, well spotted.

The 'Ultimate Nickstarter' participants have a model of him already, and I hope to make him available soon to buy, maybe before the book is out. Another Giorgio Bassani sculpt.

Female Soldiers aside, I hope everyone noticed we did represent female wizards very well. Not 50%, I agree, but 8 out of 20 isn't bad.

I sure did! The sigilist and illusionist packs make it into my "Believable Female Miniatures" collection, and I'll put a Frostgrave link to the other packs next to them (I'm assuming due to casting process you can't split them, if you can for some reason, pop me an email!)

Cubs is right, I approached a friend of mine in a back alley (by Firestorm Games, I don't regularly skulk around back alleys) wearing a hoodie with the hood up and he thought I was a dude about to mug him. I'd make a good 28mm cultist.

I've started adding male models to my collection where the style is quite androgynous anyway, as 28mm, the slight differences like shoulders are pretty moot.

Check this one out by Dark Sword that you can get from Nick

http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=7269

Says male on the packet, but can easily be female. There's quite a lot like that. I understand the big boob tiny waist thing to emphasis ideas of femininity but there are plenty of cases where it can still work, I mean, you can still tell real people are women even when they're all sorts of shapes (no funny comments!)

[Vermis]

The Statuesque heads look fine on Frostgrave bodies, but I think they look a wee bit overlarge for my liking. (Did I read that was a WIP? Any finished pics?) Anyone know of pics of e.g. Hasslefree female heads on them? A bit balder, but I also think I'd like to sculpt a more wildling-ish 'do than Stat's perfect coiffures.

[Annie]

The Statuesque heads look fine on Frostgrave bodies, but I think they look a wee bit overlarge for my liking. (Did I read that was a WIP? Any finished pics?) Anyone know of pics of e.g. Hasslefree female heads on them? A bit balder, but I also think I'd like to sculpt a more wildling-ish 'do than Stat's perfect coiffures.

It's personal preference I think. They do heroic and non-heroic, but the smaller ones I think would be too small. I have a section on my site for heads and conversions, where there are also Crooked Dice and Basicks, which are in the middle of the two, and might be more "realistic scale", I won't put a link as I don't want to hijack Nick's thread [too much  ] but if you can't find it, PM me! Statuesque do heroic scale bald heads too, only been out a couple weeks (in the section too)

I'll ask the guy if he's made any more progress. I might have a go myself. I have a day off tomorrow, might go to the office and pick up some things to paint. Might might might. maybe. The plastics look really satisfying to paint up.

[Vermis]

They do heroic and non-heroic

Blimey, so they do!

I have a section on my site for heads and conversions, where there are also Crooked Dice and Basicks

Another thing I should've looked at first.

True, the Stat. fine heads look like they'd be too fine, but... nnyehh... I dunno. I'm far more fussy than I have a right to be.

I'll ask the guy if he's made any more progress. I might have a go myself. I have a day off tomorrow, might go to the office and pick up some things to paint. Might might might. maybe. The plastics look really satisfying to paint up.

Ta.

Now, any pics of those cultist 3-ups yet?

[wolfen]

Here is a non heroic scale Statuesque head posed on a frostgrave body.



Same head compared to the Frostgrave heads.

[Annie]

Poor Steve Buscemi.

I think we're totally used to seeing exaggerated forms of women - the big boobs, tiny waist, back out the hips, in general, and then in wargaming even more so, that the difference seems bigger. I keep trying to walk away from the conversation and failing. Not that I spent some time in front of the mirror yesterday frowning.

As well as the above, I think fashion exaggerates this too, so much women's clothes in reality and fantasy does gather at the waist, to create the whole hourglass goings on. Not all.

I spent a winter in a van wearing one of these, I would definitely wear the equivalent, UNDER a coat, were I to explore the Frozen City
http://media.getthelabel.com/pws/images/catalogue/products/ljkhop1a/large/brave-soul-womens-padded-gilet-21979_black.jpg

So this model is really good for showing how much bulk of material there is. The belt of accessories is the bit that does the fashion job of drawing in at the waist to make her silhoette not similar to the apprentice.
http://northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=7454

Ygritte from Game of Thrones is a good reference too.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ygritte+wildling&biw=1408&bih=692&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI6-Pis_2sxwIVbizbCh1AMgqJ#tbm=isch&q=ygritte+costume&imgrc=DTG_Eh0qLCKCKM%3A

Her costume is very bulky, but the designers have again chose to differentiate it from the chaps by making it a bit longer, and moving the fur trim stitching from the top of the chest to conveniently around the boob.

The point of my ramble was that I accept men and women are fundamentally different shapes, but not the heaving rectangles and sighing hourglass extremes we are used to, and that a huge amount of that is not the body underneath, but the way the clothes are tailored to exaggerate. Jon Snow too on the last example, we know he's a tiny guy, but he has rabbits on the shoulder and things like that to square beef him.

Also not saying there is anything wrong with tailoring the clothes to exaggerate the shape, I'd obviously be a huge hypocrite if I said that and my wardrobe wasn't full of rectangular dresses. But that **here's the point alert*** The Frostgrave soldier box with female heads is not a huge stretch of imagination at all and works well, entirely plausible. Even more so, as the style of clothing has belts in the middle, so there is a trace of a believable hourglass shape too. It's actually the best plastic kit I have come across for just requiring a head swap to make female and off you go. Yup, we know it's a woman because of the boobs, but not having predominant boobs doesn't not mean it's not a woman.

So yeah, there isn't a huge need for a female plastic adventurer kit while you can just do that (in super cold Frostgrave land anyway!). There is way more need for the other things, whatever North Star has got planned next.

CULTISTS!

[Daniel36]

That is quite a cool female face model, from Statesque.

On a competely unrelated note; CULTISTS!! I can't wait to see them. I am definitely getting a set somewhere down the line. First obviously for Frostgrave, but definitely also a set for a Mordheim Possessed warband. It's a good thing I still have some of the original Possessed models, so I can sell them and spend the money on Frostgrave! Current bid E15,-, not shabby.

[Harry]

I think we're totally used to seeing exaggerated forms of women - the big boobs, tiny waist, back out the hips, in general, and then in wargaming even more so, that the difference seems bigger. I keep trying to walk away from the conversation and failing.

Well try harder.

I don't disagree with you on any given point but all of this is off topic ... and saaying Yay! cultists! at the end of each post does not help.

My wife ... nor indeed any former girl friends come to that had big boobs, tiny waists or anything special going on with their hips as far as I can recall .... (not my thing) ... but this is fantasy!!!! .... Non of them ever wore fur bikinis either.... more's the pity. (I might have a thing about that? ) I like my fantasy women.

I know we look at minis under super magnification on the interwebz but is there not an arguement that unless you exagerate the female form a bit that on a 25-28mm mini you would struggle to see, at the normal gaming distance,  any difference at all?

Now ... how about them cultists? Yay for cultists.

[Awesomeshotdude]

Well try harder.

I don't disagree with you on any given point but all of this is off topic ... and saaying Yay! cultists! at the end of each post does not help.

My wife ... nor indeed any former girl friends come to that had big boobs, tiny waists or anything special going on with their hips as far as I can recall .... (not my thing) ... but this is fantasy!!!! .... Non of them ever wore fur bikinis either.... more's the pity. (I might have a thing about that? ) I like my fantasy women.

I know we look at minis under super magnification on the interwebz but is there not an arguement that unless you exagerate the female form a bit that on a 25-28mm mini you would struggle to see, at the normal gaming distance,  any difference at all?

Now ... how about them cultists? Yay for cultists.

Agreed - I come here to relax and enjoy other people's modelling and gaming talk/pictures/tutorials etc, etc, etc...not to have topics become politicised in line with certain agenda's.

[Annie]

I was merely trying to state how a specifically female box set would not be a priority in future box sets in a [rubbish] attempt to steer the conversation away from wishlisting. Not ramming an agenda down anyone.

People were saying "we want female adventurers", & I was encouraging the use of the existing set, as a preference to demanding North Star pay however many thousands to make a specific one.

[Awesomeshotdude]

A new wizard class and new Soldier types,

Can you perhaps share some more specific information on these guys mate, please?

[Belgian]

A preview of one of the cultist heads has been posted. I have posted it here on my Wargame News and Terrain news blog: http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2015/08/northstar-miniatures-upcoming-hard.html?m=1 looks interesting but looking forward in more previews.

[nicknorthstar]

The Cultists aren't even out yet, and I'm getting distracted about using them for other projects.





Oh yes.  

[Ferkitt]

Credo!