Red Box Games goes plastic!

[Hupp n at em]

I have the blood rage minis and I have heard that Cool mini or not other recent stuff are that quality. If he is using the same as that then it will be good, not like the restic or bones crap pvc.

I backed Zombicide: Black Plague, and also own the original Zombicide.  While the original's figures certainly aren't on the worst end of the PVC spectrum, I did notice the Z:BP miniatures being a bit firmer and a little crisper in detail.

[beefcake]

I'd love to back this. Tre is one of my favourite sculptors. I can't justify that amount though for PVC minis.

[Malebolgia]

I backed Zombicide: Black Plague, and also own the original Zombicide.  While the original's figures certainly aren't on the worst end of the PVC spectrum, I did notice the Z:BP miniatures being a bit firmer and a little crisper in detail.

But for me the main problem with Zombicide-like PVC's is that mould lines are annoying to remove (even more annoying than with restic!) they don't take sprays well. My Zombicide paintjobs went tacky and glossy and still are. Even after applying multiple coats of brush-on matt varnish. Read that this is due to a chemical process between the plastic and the varnish.

[Vermis]

The detailing is very, very good, as ever; but the blue... banner? Info panel? ... says five unique designs for the bodies. TBH I wish there was a bit more uniqueness, so they aren't all the speechmaking pose (to put it politely), with knock-knees and hunchbacks.

[Hupp n at em]

But for me the main problem with Zombicide-like PVC's is that mould lines are annoying to remove (even more annoying than with restic!) they don't take sprays well. My Zombicide paintjobs went tacky and glossy and still are. Even after applying multiple coats of brush-on matt varnish. Read that this is due to a chemical process between the plastic and the varnish.

Any plastic that's not the hard Renedra/GW type, I'd just avoid sprays entirely. They're a problem with Reaper Bones too.

[katie]

As posted elsewhere;

The problems seem come from when people use enamel spray paints (Humbrol, Testors). Do NOT use enamel paints on PVC; either as base or as detail or as a final varnish. PVC's plasticisers apparently interact with the alkyd resin binder and prevent it going off (I don't know the exact details of why).

[Ogrob]

They look super sweet for Frostgrave soldiers. Probably the same plastic Privateer Press uses a lot, and while it is more annoying then HIPS, it is perfectly workable.

[qazbnm]

Interesting. I like the 'feel' of the RBG figures in general, but I have some issues with the poses. The feet are often just too wide apart. I had to put one figure on a 30mm base just because it didn't fit on a 25. Another issue is that the heads are often way too small, especially on the 'bulkier' figures. Separate heads should make this easier to fix

[Mo!]

I just dont get why the shields are modelled on the bodies... the scale etc would be awesome for frostgrave but the shields ruin them as thiefs or thugs...

[rwwin]

But that is a $40k goal, with no pictures of what we should expect, even concept art.

Hmm. Come on, Tre.

Yes, because that Alien campaign I backed for resin minis with all those pretty pictures turned out so well.  I'll take PVC over the big pile of NOTHING I have so far from that kickstarter.

[mcfonz]

Best not to compare Red Box to Defiance who even by the point of that KS were having difficulties.

[Vermis]

Best not to compare Red Box to Defiance who even by the point of that KS were having difficulties.

I assumed he was talking about Prodos.

[rwwin]

I assumed he was talking about Prodos.

Bingo.  Stones and glass houses and all that. 

Like or hate PVC as a material, at least Red Box is being realistic.

[mcfonz]

Yup . . . . my bad.

Still. I wouldn't compare the two.

For starters Prodos is happily selling product to non backers . . . .

[The Red Graf]

I've asked on the Kickstarter for some clarification on what type of plastic is being used. I suspect it's the same sort of plastic used in all the other sprue based kits. I like my Bloodrage and Zombicide BP miniatures, but I just don't see that material translating into multipart kits.