GoT Greyjoy project, Men at arms painted, plus Victarion.

[Jockjay]

Awwww they are lush mate... way to trump my efforts before I start! Been checking out the Fireforge stuff and that looks like a good direction. Depending on how much I get for these Napoleonic brits I want rid of.

[Jockjay]

SO the planning part of the project is in full swing, I am sizing up purchases and I think as much as the arms don't really swing with the European mercs, 40 models for under £20 cannot be sniffed at, whereas Fireforge games are getting 24 bodies for around £18. BUT FF tuetonics/ templars come with soooo many lovely cloaks and such. TORN.

I have googled the sprues and am I correct that there looks to be a few billhooks in the perry mercs to convert some pikes? If so that may sway me to purchase the following:

1 box of perry mercs: 40 models.
1 box of Tuetonics/ temps (whichever has the most cloaks) 24 models.

This will build my retinue of:

     6X foot men at arms- 6pts
     12x foot sgts- 4pts
     12x fierce foot- 4pts
     12x fiercs foot- 4pts
     12x crossbowmen- 4pts
      6x Bidowers- 2pts

That's 60 models, leaving me 4 for commander. character conversions. And a good 24 point starting retinue. NO cavalry (as far as I have read heavy cavalry run the game) and not many missile troops.

Does this 'feel' Greyjoy-ish? Dunno.

[Dilettante Gamer]

They are also supreme reavers, so excellent at raiding and the like. In Lion Rampant terms I'm classifying the bulk of the boat crews as 'Fierce Foot', with a foraging/skirmishing party of 'Bidowers' for each, led by a cadre of captains and a warlord as 'Foot Men at Arms'...

I see it much as Sukhe. My Greyjoy retinue is straightforward:

2 x Foot men at arms - 12pts (Household elite bodymen)
2 x Fierce Foot - 8pts (Warrior crew)
2 x Bidowers - 4pts (Scouts)

Two "crews" of elite, crew and scouts.  Don't know how they'll work in gameplay without horse. But theme is more important than optimization for me.

[Captain Blood]

Don't know how they'll work in gameplay without horse. But theme is more important than optimization for me.

That's the spirit! 

[Jockjay]

I'm in the same boat. no pun. Theme and narrative trump winning any day.

Love that list, Also decided for the sake of cloaks I cannot see myself buying Fireforge's knights when I can get the perry 36 knights for cheaper. And already owning said knighst for my Frostgrave stuff I know the quality.

SO:

12 bidower models- the 12 crossbows from the merc set.
12 Foot MAA- 12 knights.
24 fierce foot- the rest of the knights.

If I buy the merc and Knights boxes thats 76 models (!!) for less than £40. Leaving me 30 models spare to knock up some 'options' should my mates get too used to the above list.

However is this....'a bit knighty' for the theme, Model wise? Guess if I green stuff up some fur and cloaks etc the armour will get lost in the detail and make them look a bit less....knighty.

Also: did you get a reference for that sea blue colour captain, or is that your own interpretation. It's a nice colour.

[Captain Blood]

Also: did you get a reference for that sea blue colour captain, or is that your own interpretation. It's a nice colour.

No reference from the texts I'm afraid. Just felt a kind of sea-colour would be appropriate, to set off the black and gold heraldry of the kraken sigil on shields and banners etc.

[sukhe_bator]

Victarion Greyjoy sported a helmet fashioned/decorated like a kraken, as well as a 'fingered' cloak that looked like tentacles of a squid. I was going to use a suitably modified GW High or Dark Elf helm...

[Jockjay]

From the few artwork bits the dark elf black guard helm looks appropriate.

[tomrommel1]

Here are pictures of my sons greyjoys maybe that helps These are mainly Gripping beast figures:


hope that helps!

[tomrommel1]

sorry wanted to say Gripping beast heads and Perry hyw bodies

[Jockjay]

Excellent stuff mate. I have a few Agincourt infantry left, I may do a tester this weekend. 

[Charlie_]

Those look really good Tom. I think the HYW bodies work great as Ironborn!

I have googled the sprues and am I correct that there looks to be a few billhooks in the perry mercs to convert some pikes? If so that may sway me to purchase the following:

You get various polearm heads you can convert the pikes with. Halberds, glaives, voulges (?)... No bills though actually. There are 6 on each command spure, of which you get 2, so that 12 polearm heads per box. Though you won't get the most dynamic poses out of them, you're pretty much limited to the 'weapons shouldered' poses of the pike arms. They look fantastic for ranked up armies, but you might not like them much for skirmish style games?

[tomrommel1]

But you could use arms from the WotR sets !

[dbsubashi]

I made mine with Fireforge. I noticed that the outfits they wear at home in the Show match the Foot Sergeants pretty close, and will paint up quick. I tried to use the "later looking" helmets, but quite a few got Perry sallets, especially the Templars knights each unit got as a leader. They are up next on my painting queue. I am struggling over sculpting a kraken or 2 for the shields and then green stuff casting them. I am also debating making a unit with arms from GW Dark Elf Corsairs. It is super cool looking, but may be too "fantastic" to fit in with the rest of the army. There are some kraken helms among those Dark Elf characters as well. I did score several kraken banner pole toppers from a friend.
 I planned on 4 units of Fierce Foot, 1 unit of medium horse outriders, Asha/Yara Greyjoy and Men-at-Arms command unit, a unit of bowmen and a unit of scouts. But if I ever get my hands on a couple of Thomas cogs, The army will grow and I will be "forced" to make Silence...

[Jockjay]

clever way of squeeezing cavalry in there! also good shout on the corsair krakens. I know the 'rules' for Lions Rampant are just a guidline and easily modified. But from what i read you cannot have more than 12 points of one unit, so at 4 points a shot your fierce foot would be 16 points. Probably won't bother most people but every group has a rules lawyer somewhere.

It's not me in my group.....