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Offline Corvus5200

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Using a war band that is "vertically challenged"...
« on: September 04, 2016, 04:31:33 PM »
I am a lurker no more, with this, my first post.

Have you guys ever had to deal with a smaller than normal set of minis?  Either yours or an opponent's?

Did you house rule LOS issues or counter them with smaller bases (and therefore smaller reach/movement) or some other thing?  Less damage?

Or did you do nothing?  Was the lack of LOS over anything taller than a speck enough of a balance? 

For an example, think about the Murder Mice in the Guerrilla mini/Epic duck games on YouTube.

I got some Caesar Miniatures Ratmen that I really want to base, paint and play.  They are pretty small.

Please share your wisdom, Felstad veterans!

Offline CthulhuPunk

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Re: Using a war band that is "vertically challenged"...
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 04:42:14 PM »
I'm facing a band of gobbos, but luckily they have some big Orc support, but a about to come against a band of halflings and then some goblin pirates! Never been a problem height wise, as while they can be hard to see for LoS, they have an equal problem seeing over things to get me!

Only problem I have is that I fall in love with certain miniatures for my warband to meet my 'fluff', such as a big mean dire wolf for my warhound, which needs a bigger base size. Means I touch rough terrain more often and sometimes can't get enough guys round an enemy to attack. So basically it's always been base size and not height that has hindered me!
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Offline jp1885

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Re: Using a war band that is "vertically challenged"...
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 06:59:53 PM »
Welcome to the fun!
I've never found height an issue. Remember, if you can't see them, they can't see you!

Offline Darkson71

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Re: Using a war band that is "vertically challenged"...
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 09:01:31 PM »
If your opponent is doing the smaller models fairly (i.e. all models are roughly the same height) then it's not really a problem for the reasons jp1885 mentioned (and use true LOS), but if you opponent is using small models for combat models and larger models for shooting figures he's gaming the system and I'd have a quiet word.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=83792.msg1029035

« Last Edit: September 04, 2016, 09:03:56 PM by Darkson71 »
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Offline Koyote

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Re: Using a war band that is "vertically challenged"...
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 09:57:27 PM »
Part of Frostgrave's genius design is that JM has kept the background fairly vague and he's avoided different stat lines for different races. These elements simultaneously make the game a bit more balanced (a Templar is a Templar) AND encourages players who are deciding on model selection to unleash their imaginations (SRBA's Mind Flayer warband is an excellent example of this). With that said, I think that halfling or goblin themed warbands are brilliant and should be encouraged, but if a model's size is used to a player's advantage (e.g. complete concealment behind a low wall), without incurring an accompanying disadvantage that balances things out (e.g. traditionally, diminutive races in war games have fewer wounds), then in order to avoid hard feelings, it's something that should be addressed before the game begins.



IMHO, the easiest way to address this is for both players to agree that all soldier and spell caster models are roughly the same height. A very practical way of handling this on the table top is, depending upon a model's height and the thickness of its base, to place a "vertically challenged" model on a small or standard size D6 whenever LOS needs to be drawn to or from a said model.



If the D6 diminishes the aesthetics of game play, one can either mount their Halflings on tall bases (e.g. model them crawling over a pile of rubble) or purchase transparent acrylic squares/blocks to place short models on when determining LOS.

TAP Plastics' online store sells twenty five 1" x 1" x .236" acrylic squares for $6.25.

« Last Edit: September 04, 2016, 10:42:01 PM by Koyote »

 

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