The Pikeman's Lament

[Fencing Frog]

Dalauppror- You mentioned in a now locked thread that you didn't think you felt Lion Rampant units would be at a disadvantage against units from Pikeman's Lament.  Could you elaborate on that a little?  Also Do you think the same is true of Dragon Rampant units as some friends of mine want to try playing some "Dragon's Lament". 

Thanks.

[Dalauppror]

Hi

I have changed most if the activation stats so the troop types in The Pikeman's Lament Will most offren activati easier than the troop types from Lion Rampant or Dragon Rampant. But the cost of the units are about the same so wouldent be fair...

[GamesPoet]

Good to know, thank you.

[katie]

Very keen to try these out so there's going to be some re-purposing of WECW units.

What would people suggest Scots lancer cavalry[1] should be?

Trotters doesn't seem right (because the shouldn't have a shooting) and they don't seem like Gallopers either.



[1] I have some of Bicorne's really nice figures for them.

[Dalauppror]

Thanks!!!

Regarding Scots Lancers I would field them as Gallpoers as their main Tactic, as I understand it, was to make Swift moves on the battlefield and charge the enemy using Lances and Pistols. Maybe you should make them Raw if you want to represent them as inferior or more fragile Compared to English Gallopers due to their lack of good quality horse.

Best regards Michael

[Fencing Frog]

Hi

I have changed most if the activation stats so the troop types in The Pikeman's Lament Will most offren activati easier than the troop types from Lion Rampant or Dragon Rampant. But the cost of the units are about the same so wouldent be fair...

Thanks so to give them a fighting chance they would need either a lower points cost or and adjustment to their activation.  Seems reasonable.

[Dalauppror]

Thanks so to give them a fighting chance they would need either a lower points cost or and adjustment to their activation.  Seems reasonable.

Might be so, but I would still not mix troop types from the different rules, you should be able to translate most in to the troop types Included in the Pikeman's Lament, but if you still go ahead the easier way i suppouse would be to adjust activations.

[Fencing Frog]

Might be so, but I would still not mix troop types from the different rules, you should be able to translate most in to the troop types Included in the Pikeman's Lament, but if you still go ahead the easier way i suppouse would be to adjust activations.

your solution is probably easier 

[Dalauppror]

Please feel free to ask if you have any questions to how to interpit them in to TPL troop types.

[El Frantico]

Got my copy finally. Well done! I like that you have been retained the lion rampant rules and at the same time gave the game significant new flavor in the special rules and unit stats.

[Dalauppror]

Thank you! Appreciated !!!

[Emir of Askaristan]

Love the rules, especially the officers and their honour and traits. I think that builds an excellent narrative which the scenarios you've included also help form.

I'm loooking at winding them back to the mid to late 1500's though. Earlier handguns etc will become commanded shot (looser, smaller and less formal and more mobile than formal ranks of matchlock muskets), zweihanders, halberdiers and enfants perdue and possibly swordsmen will become forlorn hope, (their job is to break the pike block, and this also represents loose bands of marauders). Gendarmes will elite gallopers - due to their armour as suggested in the rules, mounted arquebus and crossbow as dragoons - as the can skirmish and mount and dismount. Later pistoliers will be trotters and Demi lancers and cuirassier become gallopers.

It will be a while before I get to put figures down on the table to tast these ideas and they are all just outline thoughts at the moment.

Looking forward to giving them a go in any case. Congrats on an excellent set of rules!

[Dalauppror]

Thank you very much The Emir

You plans for the 16th century sounds Greate indeed!

[Codsticker]

I haven't ordered mine yet: I am waiting for any number of online retailers to both it and the new Saga supplement in stock so I can order it at the same time (according to Firestorm Games, Pikeman's Lament is out of stock at Osprey  ).

[Dalauppror]

Out of stock? Avcording to the osprey site they have the book in stock...

https://ospreypublishing.com/the-pikeman-s-lament