@Byrthnoth - That makes sense. I think the GW Orc design got considerably beefed up right around 6th edition- I think those black orcs were kind of the apex of the pre-beefsteak orc. I wasn't really picking up Orcs and Goblins back then (aside from the plastics that came in the 4th edition and Warhammer Quest set, which I've finally painted 30 years later), but I remember those guys (the black orcs) being very tempting on my limited spending money.