Polish artillery in Pinsk 1920

[ts]

The "cavalry" can be mounted artillerymen, I do not know and really do not care much.
My main interest is to find out, what model the shown gun is?

I will put up a schemata, when my scanner works again, showing the etat of the Polish Horse Artillery pr. 15. September 1919.

That the "cavalry" does not carry lances is proof of nothing. The light horse mainly did not carry lances, neither did many volunteer units.
If it is artillery, then it is interesting, they also carry a red-white? Polish standard, even if most or many Polish units carried flags of some kind. Else I only know of one horse artillery standard, which is in form of a lance pennon.

[David]

the look like they have formed up for moving or a military parade, it what most units do in the field at the start of the day on campaine. so there comander can speek to them.
I know this, since i have done this a few times
after going through the WW1 guns 65 or 75mm guns i don't think it any of them.
The main problem with this gun in the picture is the gun barrel with no support under the barrel and the lenght of the carrage.
it look like a 1890 to 1900 design, with a gun shield fitted on.
it is not French, british, german from my books
so it could be a pain to find out.
the best way is to find what unit was there and what they were equiped with.

[Mark Plant]

If it is artillery, then it is interesting, they also carry a red-white? Polish standard, even if most or many Polish units carried flags of some kind. Else I only know of one horse artillery standard, which is in form of a lance pennon.

Mamontov's battery in Russia had a flag, and there are other references to artillery flags. It does look like a cavalry pennon shape to me.

I doubt most batteries had much interest in designing a complicated flag, so probably went with something simple in regimental colours.

[Poliorketes]

The main problem with this gun in the picture is the gun barrel with no support under the barrel and the lenght of the carrage.
it look like a 1890 to 1900 design, with a gun shield fitted on.

That's exactly what I thought. Without gun shield there are several possible guns from pre-1895.

[ts]

From: LEKSYKON WOJNY POLSKO – ROSYJSKIEJ 1919-1920, by Janusz Odziemkowski, Warszawa, 2004.
1918 the Poles took over from Germany, Austria and Russia more than 352 guns of 22 different designs - of which only 25% were modern. So there are enough models to choose from. But how to find a list of all those? I do not have access to the litterature mentioned in the notes:
CAW, sygn. 1.301.10.2, 1.301.10.20, 1.301.10.24, 1.301.11.43, 1.311.4.21, 1.341.1.235; W. Chocianowicz, Dzieje 1 pułku artylerii lekkiej Legio­nów Józefa Piłsudskiego, Londyn 1967; J. Ciałowicz, Rozwój sprzętu artyleryjskiego w czasie wojny i po woj­nie (1914-1929), Warszawa 1930; K.L. Galster, Księga pamiątkowa artylerii polskiej 1914-1939, Londyn 1975; J. Gintel, Zarys historii wojennej 2-go pułku artylerii ciężkiej, Warszawa 1929; J. Hlasko, Zarys historii wojen­nej 1-go pułku artylerii ciężkiej, Warszawa 1929; J. Ka­miński, Artyleria, [w:] Dziesięciolecie odrodzenia Polskiej Siły Zbrojnej 1918-1928, pod red. H. Mościckiego, W. Dzwonkowskiego, T. Balabana, Warszawa 1928; Landau, Natężenie ognia artylerii w wojnie 1918-1920, „Przegląd Artyleryjski" 1924, nr 2; R. Łoś, Artyleria pol­ska 1914-1939, Warszawa 1991; M. Wrzosek, Wojsko Polskie w dobie narodzin II Rzeczypospolitej (1918- 1921), [w:] Zarys dziejów wojskowości polskiej w latach 1864-1939, Warszawa 1990; S. Więckowski, Historia 17pułku artylerii, Warszawa 1931.
I have tried one of the Polish internet forums, but with no results yet.
Any Poles on this forum?

[ts]

[David]

Looks lovely, but what does it mean in English?
Bateria ? = battery
BZAK ?
DAK ?
RAZEM ? =Total
can you convert the words into english so we can understand what it means
Thanks
David

[ts]

Just for you David  

It follows the same lines as all such schematas.
Bateria = battery
DAK - D = dywizjon/unit. A = artylerii. K = Konnej, meaning horse/mounted. And so Horse artillery unit/battery.
Dowodztwo = leadership, command - here staff.
BZAK = batteria zapasowa artylerii konna = battery reserve.
Podchorążowie = cadets/very young officers. Officers then were often trained in the field caused by the circumstances.
Podofiecerowie = NCOs.
Szeregowi = men, privates.
Razem = total.