Eastern renaissance

[Doom Beard 78]

atheling- over on TMP various people said that they had Fire and Sword in 28mm

I agree that thier 15mm figures look great , but from previous expeeirnce I simply do not enjoy painting 15mm figures and the prospect of painting a 100 or more of them is simply not for me

[Doom Beard 78]

spotted this on their website

Figure and unit scale: 1 figure resembles 15-18 real soldiers. This means that an average banner of Polish horse will number 9 figures grouped on 3 bases (about 120 -150 soldiers in reality).

If you want to play bigger games 1 figure should be counted as 50 men, this will allow to treat one base with three figures as a full banner of cavalry.

so far I have 16 Hussars, 12 Pancierni, 37 mounted cossacks, 48 Haiduks, 24 Ratjars ( Essentially the Reitar style of pistol cavalry) 40 Noble levy ( a mix of Croats, Hungarians and Cossacks) and 30 cossack foot

Applying the ratio of 3 figures to a base gives

5x Hussars
4 Pancierni
12 Cossacks
16 Haiduk
8 Reitar
13 noble levy ( assorted medium cavalry)
10 Cossack foot

Probably a good start for the Poles .  Still to are 18 Krakow Militia and 2 cannon

[Atheling]

spotted this on their website

Figure and unit scale: 1 figure resembles 15-18 real soldiers. This means that an average banner of Polish horse will number 9 figures grouped on 3 bases (about 120 -150 soldiers in reality).

If you want to play bigger games 1 figure should be counted as 50 men, this will allow to treat one base with three figures as a full banner of cavalry.

so far I have 16 Hussars, 12 Pancierni, 37 mounted cossacks, 48 Haiduks, 24 Ratjars ( Essentially the Reitar style of pistol cavalry) 40 Noble levy ( a mix of Croats, Hungarians and Cossacks) and 30 cossack foot

Applying the ratio of 3 figures to a base gives

5x Hussars
4 Pancierni
12 Cossacks
16 Haiduk
8 Reitar
13 noble levy ( assorted medium cavalry)
10 Cossack foot

Probably a good start for the Poles .  Still to are 18 Krakow Militia and 2 cannon

Sounds brill.  Maybe I should order some Ottomans from TAG and we can arrange a game in about a years time- seriously, what do you think?

[Doom Beard 78]

That seems like a realistic plan. I just ordered the rules £12 on Wayland Games for the stripped down version , i.e just the rules without all the history s that version is about £50

[Atheling]

That seems like a realistic plan. I just ordered the rules £12 on Wayland Games for the stripped down version , i.e just the rules without all the history s that version is about £50

I'll take another look at the TAG page tomorrow. I do love those mini's.

[Kadrinazi]

Regarding rulebooks for BFaS: core rulebook (just rules) is available as free downloand:
http://www.fireandsword.wargamer.pl/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&Itemid=86&id=136:byfireandswordrulebook

You can also download Republic in Flames, which contains all armies from main rulebook:
http://www.fireandsword.wargamer.pl/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&Itemid=85&id=138:republicinflames27062019

[Atheling]

Regarding rulebooks for BFaS: core rulebook (just rules) is available as free downloand:
http://www.fireandsword.wargamer.pl/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&Itemid=86&id=136:byfireandswordrulebook

You can also download Republic in Flames, which contains all armies from main rulebook:
http://www.fireandsword.wargamer.pl/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&Itemid=85&id=138:republicinflames27062019

Thanks Is there a general history with the army lists?

[Doom Beard 78]

Thanks for sharing that link. There is a decent ammount of history included in the army lists. Its inspiring me to put in an order for some more Poles.

[Atheling]

Thanks for sharing that link. There is a decent ammount of history included in the army lists. Its inspiring me to put in an order for some more Poles.

Let me know if you do. I'm still going to go for Ottomans as it's an army that I have always been interested in- OK, from a Late Medieval perspective but I cam make do with a Renaissance army. 

[Doom Beard 78]

Atheling , I have some Delhis and Akinci from a WAB Albanian army I used about ten years ago at the WAB weekend ( great days)  Plus I had started work on a unit of Janissary Guard for the Poles ( there was a unit of Moldavians recruited for having long moustaches who were dressed in Janissary uniforms). Here's a bad photo

A project for 2021 I think

[Atheling]

Atheling , I have some Delhis and Akinci from a WAB Albanian army I used about ten years ago at the WAB weekend ( great days)  Plus I had started work on a unit of Janissary Guard for the Poles ( there was a unit of Moldavians recruited for having long moustaches who were dressed in Janissary uniforms). Here's a bad photo

A project for 2021 I think

I'm in. one question though, is the TAG range quite comprehensive in their coverage the Ottomans?

I ask as there seems to be a lack of heavily armoured troops.

[Doom Beard 78]

I don't really know; I'm not very knowledgeable on the Ottoman army of the 17th century. Possibly the heavily armoured infantry Voynuks of the 15th century had passed by. In terms of the cavalry, there are some fully barded warhorses in the Sipahis range

Some one on this forum is bound to know

[Atheling]

I don't really know; I'm not very knowledgeable on the Ottoman army of the 17th century. Possibly the heavily armoured infantry Voynuks of the 15th century had passed by. In terms of the cavalry, there are some fully barded warhorses in the Sipahis range

Yeah, I was thinking more armoured Janissaries? 

Some one on this forum is bound to know

I hope so. Some pictorial sources would be great if you're reading

[M.P.]

Well as for Tag range, from what I See the range is quite comprehensive, however It lacks unarmored horse archers (there are only a few poses).

The biggest problem with Tag eastern renaissance range in generał is its historical accuracy. If you want accurate armies be prepared to use green stuff alot.

As for the heavy armoured infantry in the XVIIth century  - there were none. Possible exceptions might have been found  in sieges were some jannisaries who lead forays to be promoted to silahdars.

[Rogerc]

Interesting thread here, I am collecting Poles and Cossacks for the Deluge period *1650's) ideally that I can also mainly use for Great Northenr War. I have them in 28mm an dhope to use them for By Fire and Sword.

For the light horse archers Earfare have  alovely range of both Ottoman and Tatars. Watchign this with interest.