Never Mind The Bill Hooks test game #2 (page 4), lotsa pics!

[Captain Blood]

Thanks chaps

Co-ol! All that crashing through hedgerows, it's like a Graham Turner painting come to life.

I shall make no comment on the rules questions, lest I  inadvertently reveal that I have no idea what 'm talking about.

cheers Dylan. (Not knowing what I’m talking about has never stopped me )

Yes, I was going to cite Graham Turner’s fabulous painting of Tewkesbury (again!) in the hedge debate

Maybe not a hedgerow as such, but (to me anyway) characteristic of what I think of as Wars of the Roses battles, incongruously fought out amongst the familiar, bosky, and generally overgrown English countryside. Sunken lanes and hedged and ditched tracks and field boundaries, where Edward and Somerset tangled in the fateful turning point of Tewkesbury...

[Atheling]

Sunken lanes and hedged and ditched tracks and field boundaries, where Edward and Somerset tangled in the fateful turning point of Tewkesbury...

This is more like what I imagine a Medieval hedge would look like. Think archers behind the hedge at the Battle of Poitiers....... much more substantial than than what we would call a hedgerow nowadays.

[Captain Blood]

This is more like what I imagine a Medieval hedge would look like. Think archers behind the hedge at the Battle of Poitiers....... much more substantial than than what we would call a hedgerow nowadays.

Indeed Darrell. It's a lovely depiction.
We should bear in mind though, that everything on the wargames tabletop - however artistic or otherwise - is purely representational. Not a fully realised, faithfully accurate scale reproduction of the real thing
(Particularly when we have only a sketchy idea from fleeting, 500-year old documentary references, what the real thing actually was!)

I'd guess that back then, just as now, medieval England would have had boundaries and enclosures of all different heights, widths, depths, materials and densities, for all different purposes. I doubt there was only one type of giant 'tree hedge' and that was it.

Now enough with the hedge talk already FFS!

(I'd better do another test game, sans hedges, ASAP, so we can talk about Andy's excellent WOTR rule set rather than pontificating on the exact look of the English countryside five centuries ago )

[Atheling]

Now enough with the hedge talk already FFS!

Fair comment 

[Cubs]

Now enough with the hedge talk already FFS!

We could keep it going as a privet conversation.

[Roo]

 

[Harry Faversham]

I'm hedging mi' bets on this one!

 

[Codsticker]

Ba-dum-tish!



 

[levied troop]

Never mind the bocage.

oh, is that my coat?

[LCpl McDoom]

Captain Blood, my sincere apologies if my historic topiary fascination was a distraction on your thread. You've provided some excellent material on all of this, which is some of the best wargame work I've seen lately. Inspirational stuff sir 

[Captain Blood]

No need to apologise at all It’s a perfectly interesting and relevant discussion. (I just didn’t want the whole thread to become about hedges )

Hoping to play another (hedgeless) game of NMTBH over the next couple of days. This time on some of my sculpted, integral terrain boards...

Pics and report to follow in due course.

[Cubs]

No need to apologise at all

So you're just going to shrub it off?

Last one, promise.

[OSHIROmodels]

I do hope everyone has gotten their coats and turned the lights out?

 

[archiduque]

Excellent Richard!!

[Captain Blood]

Thanks Rafa

Hi again, Captain! You are right about remembering everything. There's a couple of videos due from WI showing a test game between Andy and myself. We managed to make at least two mistakes with the rules and in the heat of battle, I forgot to play my bonus card, which might of saved my unit from destruction. I also tried to play the black powder rules for a flank attack - Andy soon put me right there! No doubt, Dan will edit the videos to show the 'correct plays' but it just goes to show that even a small set of rules are difficult to grasp completely. I wonder just how some players cope with the more complicated sets out there.
BTW, I must confess to being influenced by your work on the WOTR. My heavy cavalry have 'stolen' some of your colour scheme and ideas. Your brush work is simply amazing!

Thanks Steve. Sorry, I missed this before in the excitement of the hedge debate
Feel free to steal away, I pinch other people’s ideas all the time

Yes, I watched one of your videos today, so I know what you mean. I liked the bit where Andy said ‘and they re-roll any ones’ - and then promptly forgot to reroll the ones he then immediately rolled 
Glad it’s not just me

Just finished playing my second (much larger) solo test game. Hopefully I’ll get a full report uploaded tomorrow. Far fewer questions this time, so I must be learning!