Ancients "skirmish" rules?

[mkultra99]

The club is looking to get involved with the Punic Wars and teh talk has turned to "skirmish" and "campaign". We know about ASoBaH, Lion Rampant, SPQR, Mortal Gods, Ravenfeast, etc etc etc. But maybe there is something out there a bit more purpose built?
And just for laughs has anyone read/ or actually tried the "new" SPQR?

[has.been]

Apart from suggesting Fistful of Lead reloaded, or maybe
their upcoming D&D sets, as that is what I plan to use
for Ancient Skirmish, or Men of Bronze, which my mate
Vodkafan wants to try out, I have little to contribute.

I am, however, very interested in what suggestions/possibilities
are out there.

[emosbur]

Infamy. Infamy! will have a punic wars variant.

[SHARPE52]

Infamy. Infamy! will have a punic wars variant.

+1. I am playing Infamy, Infamy basic set and I find it an excellent game.
I can't wait for the Punic expansion
Marco

[SJWi]

Hi, I don't recognise the acronym AsoBaH, but have you looked at SAGA "Age of Hannibal". That would seem to tick your boxes. Like Marco also waiting with baited breath for the reported  Infamy Punic Wars supplement.

Regards. 

[has.been]

Hi, I don't recognise the acronym AsoBaH,

I think it is, 'A song of Blades and Heroes'
A system about which I have heard a lot of nice comments,
but which I have never played.

[Easy E]

Clash of Spears was specifically designed for this purpose. A review:

https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2020/10/review-clash-of-spears-fighting-hedgehog.html

In November, Osprey is also coming out with Wars of the Republic which will feature forces of 5-8 units or so that will work as well.  It is more big battles with small model count unit-vs-unit combat thought.  It is based on Men of Bronze, and has lists and rules specific to the Punic War.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/in/wars-of-the-republic-9781472844903/

Saga also has the Age of Hannibal supplement as well....

https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SRB25_SAGA_Age_of_Hannibal--product--6076.html

[valerio81]

Apart from suggesting Fistful of Lead reloaded

Does it work good for ancient? I think it works quite well for people with guns shooting each other, but I am not sure if it's still good when there are no guns and almost all combat is melee. I wish it would, because it ticks all boxes for my gaming group and I'd like to use it for ancient too

[Easy E]

When you say Skirmish, do you want Model vs Model or Unit vs Unit skirmish? 

[mkultra99]

We are looking for a "warband" skirmish style game.. so unit vs unit. This is the list of rules I've compiled that fit our parameters.
SAGA
WAB
Clash of Spears
Lion rampant
Fistful of Lead: Big Battles

Anything I've missed?

[Easy E]

Depends.  What are your parameters?

[SteveBurt]

Saga Age of Hannibal is very good and has much more historical flavour than I expected

[has.been]

Does it work good for ancient? I think it works quite well for people with guns shooting each other, but I am not sure if it's still good when there are no guns and almost all combat is melee. I wish it would, because it ticks all boxes for my gaming group and I'd like to use it for ancient too

Short answer is...YES.
Several games on LAF where it is used for Medieval & seems to work fine.
Lots of 'shooting' at each other in Ancients:- Bows, slings, javelins, pilum,
catapults, (primitive) crossbows, (equally primitive) hand grenades (Naphtha, or Hannibal with pots full of snakes), just to list a few, just
no gunpowder.

[Zingara]

You've already mentioned A Song of Blades and Heroes. Units can be tailored with the various traits very nicely for a small game. I've played a fistful of lead variant with combat heavy forces and they hold up fine. The world's your oyster, so to speak. I also like the Chaos Wars successors like Lion Rampant etc which can be tailored pretty easily.

[Patrice]

If someone in your group is willing to do RPG-minded GM work, and if your friends are not too competitive, "Argad!" can certainly be adapted.