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Author Topic: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming  (Read 14522 times)

Offline Michi

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0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« on: September 12, 2009, 06:11:06 PM »
Some of you have already seen these pictures of my Bachmann 0n30 (1/48 - 3ft or 1m narrow gauge) passenger train.

















I did a bit of weathering and painted the interiors, but the models are basically unconverted.
I was asked to show some more of these trains. There are very useful goods wagons as well. All doors and hatches can be opened and the roofs are removable to make the interiors accessible. That is perfect for wargaming. I tried to make the photos speak for themselves.





The tracks are Micro Engineering, tht is obtainable in Germany too:
http://www.ks-modelleisenbahnen.de/html/microengineering.html

Peco does a similar track, but you can use any H0/00 tracks, because the gauge is the same (16,5mm).
The sleepers of the scale track are longer and their distance is wider, thus it looks a bit more to scale. The rails are fastened with old style nails instead of modern clamps or screws, what make it look perfect for pioneer railways, western or sugar plants, coal mines or whatever you can imagine.





Bachmann make a rather wide range of American models for wild west, pulp and colonial scenarios. They are very nicely detailed and easy to find in railway stores that sell US stuff or at ebay.
First I show a 1890-1950s streetcar (possibly for Chicago or New York, but as likely for any European city as well). I have included some size comparisons with prohibition era miniatures and a railway engine:


















Next are the engines. There are other manufacturers beside Bachmann as well:











Bachmann 2-6-0 Mogul (they make 0-4-0, 4-4-0 and Shay locomotives too)


Broadway 2-8-0 Consolidated (I havenīt seen other models from them yet)



The following goods wagons are from Bachmann (though Accucraft does boxcars and there are resin kits too).
This is a ventilated boxcar with sliding doors at all sides and ends:











Stock car for cattle:


Low side gondola (I have high side gondolas too, but not painted yet. They come with an artificial coal load):


Flat car:


Tank car (all gondolas, stake cars and tank cars can be easily converted into flatcars by removing the bodies from the bases):


Box car:


opening hatches at the ends of the boxcars are very good for placing snipers...


Caboose (all passenger coaches and cabooses come with comlete interiors and are lighted):



Loading samples with vehicles of different scales, that are commonly used with 28mm figures:


1/48:


1/64:


1/55:


The vehicles for comparison:



These models are easy to fall in love with, but they are not cheap. Keep in mind that these are mainly highly detailed top quality model railway pieces. They are a very pleasant sight on the table, but they consume a lot of space. Railway structures consume even more...


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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 07:03:53 AM »
So cool.... ;D

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 10:24:14 AM »
Nice I suspect the streetcar I have been watching on Ebay will suddenly double in price now ;)

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 11:17:48 AM »
your collection is top notch
now I have a good reference for true quality

would you mind to give me some measurements for comparison?

general width/length of the waggons

height from ground to buffer level (incl. track)
height from buffer level to top of the coaches/boxcars
approximates will be fine


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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 11:47:47 AM »
I can't help noticing that oh so interesting 'hobby room' with its cabinets and ranks of figures ......  any chance of seeing more of what's in the room?  :D

That "hobby room" is our kitchen. There is nothing else hobby related in there. It is simply the only wall in our place that is long enough to hang up three cabinets next to each other. Sorry...

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2009, 11:56:38 AM »
Oh, only the kitchen. It looked like a 100 m2 room dedicated for wargaming :o Why did you shatter our dreams...

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 12:07:28 PM »

would you mind to give me some measurements for comparison?

general width/length of the waggons


BOXCAR:

Length body: 165mm
Width body:    50mm
Height body:   40mm

Length interior: 162mm
Width interior:    46mm
Height interior:   35mm

Length over couplers:                   174mm
Elevation couplers over railheads:     9,5mm
Elevation couplers over ground:        15mm
Height roof over ground:                 66mm
Height sliding doors:                   32mm

Please note that the coaches are longer and a bit taller, due to their clerestory roofs.
Engines are a tad wider and taller due to their chimneys.

Tunnels of 100mm height and 70mm width should be very convenient.

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2009, 12:32:33 PM »
thx

mine are a little bit higher and wider, but not much
height might have to do with the fact that my wheels are bigger (0 gauge)
the elevation of the loading height (sliding doors) is the same
and I just noticed that you have the central buffer coupling, which is of course not at deck height like my european couplers I guess

I have some special waggons which are longer, but only around 20-23 cm, but they go fine around the curves and most have bogies anyway

I remenber central couplers being introduced around 1890 in US - correct?
is this a contradiction with your train?
cause I don't know the time to place it?

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 12:33:27 AM »
Those trains are lovely. 8)
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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 07:09:35 PM »
Only just found this one - it's beautiful stuff.

Puts me very much in mind of the film Matewan - which if you haven't seen........


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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 10:33:15 PM »
Puts me very much in mind of the film Matewan - which if you haven't seen........

Havenīt seen it, though just watched some scenes on youtube. I never knew about the coal miners war, but that would be a great background for skirmishes and even full scale civil war battles!

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 08:53:23 AM »
Stunning.

Thank you for sharing the photos.  I had been looking to purchase these models some time ago and use the Peco CrazyTrack.  But it may have to wait until I have some spare cash.

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Re: 0n30 (1/48 scale) railway models for 28mm wargaming
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 07:37:11 PM »
Havenīt seen it, though just watched some scenes on youtube. I never knew about the coal miners war, but that would be a great background for skirmishes and even full scale civil war battles!

Superbly made film with great characters set in 1920s West Virginia, various initially opposing factions (miners, various ethnic groups of strike-breaking labour, locals etc) gradually come together to oppose the mining company's hired gun thugs. Ends up in a gun fight/battle through the streets and rail yards of the town. There were a lot of disputes in the early 20th century in America where hired thugs were brought in to break up strikes, including copper mines in Michigan etc - some are documented in songs by the likes of Woody Guthrie.

I've always thought it would make a great game. Watch it if you get a chance. I have it somewhere on VHS recorded off the telly.


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