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Offline CapnJim

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2021, 04:58:54 PM »
I must say, 'tis quite the endeavor up which you are scheming.  Good luck to you, lad.  I'll be watching for your periodic updates...

One of my 2nd-great uncles chased Commanches in Texas and New Mexico from 1870-1875 in MacKenzie's 4th US Cavalry.  So, naturally, these types of set-ups always pique my interest... ;) 
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Offline FifteensAway

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2021, 01:23:26 AM »
Nice touch, the crosses with the 'old' wagon.  Duly 'borrowed'. 

Black Hat:

One thing I do that helps with the speed - though reduces the detailing a bit - is to pre-base figures (I use three to a base) so that when painting is done there is no need to base again.

If you do a really large batch, this would be my method -

Paint all warriors a ruddy flesh.  When dry, wash with a red brown..

Paint all hair black.

Paint all wooden items, guns, bows, lances, etc. your chosen brown.

Paint all feathers black (needs to be after hair - and after wood items).

Come back and paint some feathers gray, others brown, finally, others off-white. (white can be too stark).

As you do the above, use each color on every third figure for other details - but don't do same color feather and detail on same figures - at least not too much.

Paint all metal weapons (I like Gunmetal - I use craft paints), gun barrels, pistols, axes, etc.  When dry, dry brush silver.

If needed (usually is), come back with more colors and do the every third figure thing again - and maybe again.  And vary the order to avoid every third figure being too much the same.

Then any minor details still needed.

Last pass for any minor touch ups.

Paint top and sides of base, swish in base flocking material.  Wait to dry, knock off excess.  Glue on tufts or other details.

Seal coat really well and let dry.

Call it done.

Can do hundreds of figures this way in one 'long' sitting - by that, I mean, keep them on the paint table until done, not do all in one sitting (that would be mildly insane and cause an extremely sore butt - and back, too).

I used that for my African natives and did 474 figures in one month earlier this year (different skin tones and details, of course).  No horses for my Africa natives, East Africa and the Tse-tse fly and all.  Did 409 figures the next month and that included 96 alive and 6 dead 'cattle' in the form of Cape Buffalo.  All a matter of diligence and dedication.  (We won't discuss the fall-off the next few months.)  The point is, it can be done - and get a presentable result, not going to be show stoppers but they will be playable figures.

I have around 480 mounted native warriors to paint for pony wars (including those I added in, 80 more with recent Bluemoon order).  And at least 244 warriors on foot and a similar number of unarmed, mostly, villagers.  Also lots of casualties.  And more, not all of my Apaches are in that count.  Much prepping and priming to do (a small portion done already).

Hope that helps - even if you vary your approach to mass painting.

Horses?  I go a bit over the top on horses so maybe not the best to consult for speed painting equines!



« Last Edit: December 21, 2021, 01:33:51 AM by FifteensAway »

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2021, 04:49:16 AM »
Thank you Sir, I'm ging to need all the help and advice I can get!

:)
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Offline FifteensAway

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2021, 02:04:16 PM »
Curious as to the source of the wagon in the photo?  Don't recognize it.  Maybe Irregular or Museum Miniatures?  Some other source?  Like the colors used.  Though colors do suggest that the Faversham Trail traverses a pretty wet part of the west.  Dryer parts and you'd have a pretty gray wagon pretty quick.  Of course, those grave markers do seem a bit fresh! 

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2021, 12:07:34 PM »
Curious as to the source of the wagon in the photo?

I've got three more to rebase.



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« Last Edit: December 22, 2021, 12:15:44 PM by Harry Faversham »

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2021, 12:14:42 PM »
Back in our pokey little seaside resort, from having Crimbo with the lad and his family. Escort home was by three Troops of 15mm Blue Moon 7th Cavalry...
lovely little minis who'll be going under the brush this week.

:)

Offline CapnJim

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2021, 05:28:11 PM »
How do those 1/72 wagons look compare to the 15mm figures?

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2021, 12:31:20 AM »
How do those 1/72 wagons look compare to the 15mm figures?

Dreadful, they absolutely won't do at all...
Peter Pig to the rescue!



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Offline CapnJim

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2021, 01:06:57 AM »
Oh perfect!  Looks sufficiently, uh, raided.  Should look good with the grave markers...wonder how it would look, say, with a couple arrows stuck in the side?

Offline FifteensAway

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2021, 03:08:08 AM »
Ah, IMEX 1/72, that's what I didn't recognize it.  And turn around and Peter Pig appears.  For a little variety for destroyed wagons, check out Freikorp via QRF (I think in ACW range) made out of metal (or were when I bought mine).

One of my 'excess' stage coaches will be turned into a wrecked vehicle and I will use some Alternative Armies skeletal dead people and horses to enhance - and see if someone can't get 'spitted' on a wagon wheel and be a might 'crispy'.  I have the Peter Pig damaged wagon, too (well three of them now).  Going to need a lot of wagons to do Quicksand Bottoms.

I like the idea of arrows sticking out.  Part of my plan - but how to do in 15 mm and be durable?  I am thinking to use a sewing pin likely. 

I think modeling Del Gue (or someone similar) buried up to his neck in an ant hill won't be too challenging - except for scratching the ants!  lol
« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 03:11:58 AM by FifteensAway »

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2021, 07:39:54 AM »
One question that's already cropped up...
Whose figures mix best with Blue Moon, Hovels or Peter Pig?

???

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2021, 02:58:43 PM »
Harry,

Bluemoon tend towards the larger end of the spectrum, Hovels the smallest, Peter Pig smaller generally but bigger than Hovels.  Better matches to Bluemoon would be QRF Freikorps' Yellow Ribbon range and Minifigs.  The new ranges from CP Models will match decently - but no mounted figures as of yet.

That being said, I am not afraid to mix them all.  Alas, my old computer's operating system won't let me post photos here just now but I have a new system on order but not due until mid to later January.

Perhaps getting a sample pack of all the major players would be a good idea to compare.  Irregular, at least the ones I have, tend to be the biggest.

Also well to keep in mind how absurdly large my collection is for the period - my Pony West combination of Pony Wars and Old West.  With what is on order included and perhaps already shipped my way, I now have 27 sets of 12 mounted/12 on foot/12 dead with four standing horses to mark dismount points groupings.  Through much mixing and matching.  That adds up to 1,404 figures though it is for only 324 "men" with each man mounted, on foot, and dead - and while Peter Pig helped a lot, there are many more that are not Peter Pig, lots of them are Blue Moon, Minifigs, etc.  And that leaves out cavalry, Indians, and the 'peaceable' civilians.  Point is, I need maximum variety.

Depending on your goals, you might be able to get a good match from a smaller group of figure suppliers.

Here is a link to a blog I have had limited access to over the last year and half (same computer issues).  If you explore around you can find a number of photos of primed figures mixing up many of the various figures and they tend to work okay together to my eyes: https://whiskeyhills.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2020-06-05T07:02:00-07:00&max-results=7&start=7&by-date=false

Hope that helps. 
« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 03:01:19 PM by FifteensAway »

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2021, 03:29:06 PM »
Thank you Sir.

 :)

Offline Harry Faversham

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2021, 10:09:48 AM »


Captain Nathan Brittles:

"You got a breath on you like a hot mince pie!"

Top Sergeant Quincannon:

"Ah, Captain darlin'. As you well know I took the pledge after Chapultepec."

Captain Nathan Brittles:

"And Bull Run, and Gettysburg, and Shiloh, and St. Patrick's Day, and Fourth of July!"

:)

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Re: New project for 2022.
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2021, 10:11:59 AM »
"So here they are: the dog-faced soldiers, the regulars, the fifty-cents-a-day professionals... riding the outposts of a nation. From Fort Faversham to Fort Apache - from Sheridan to Stark - they were all the same: men in dirty-shirt blue and only a cold page in the history books to mark their passing. But wherever they rode - and whatever they fought for - that place became the United States."

::)

 

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