Epic thoughts...

[Major_Gilbear]

@ YPU:

I agree! That said, it's fair to admit that E40k does have some moderate issues... To use the author's own terminology, I think he failed to slay his darlings in several key areas.    Nothing that stops the game being fast, fun, and flexible, but they are things that probably would have helped the game quite a bit if they'd been caught earlier IMO.

If as a new player you can get the books for it, I would always recommend it - you can make detachments for each army out of almost any mix of units, so it's great if you're starting out with a bit of a small/eclectic mix of figures. There was also a very decent Citadel Journal / Specialist Games army list for the Squats too.

@ Verderer:

Er, sorry! I didn't mean to hijack your thread... 

[Verderer]

No worries, all this is interesting to read, I never knew exactly why Epic was dropped, or that Lotr might have something to do with it.

I had a chat with one 3d sculptor who makes and edits them, and he gave the opinion that the marines I am using are actually scaled for true 6mm, if you use the scale where a 6mm guy is 6 feet tall, and an 8mm marine is 8 feet tall. I guess that makes sense.

Oh yeah, and he was also of the opinion that the original vehicles were way too small, more like 3mm, so they ought to be bigger really... but the main thing is get what you like and use it.

[Daeothar]

Im game for a game! I've been playing armageddon a fair bit of late but I'm curious to other editions as well!

Cool; let's set something up then 

Like I said; I have (almost) all of the big boxes. I also have a 6x4 table and everything required to play. Of course you can bring your own armies, as mine are obviously still bare plastic and very basic...

[Verderer]

Been printing some real estate recently. I have some some from WargameForge, a sample on the left; then I have printed some Sacrus Mundus pieces - the triumphal arc and the big building in the centre, these are originally in 30mm but scale pretty well to 6 or 8mm, in this case scaled down to 33%. Then on the right is a free factorium building from Cults3D. I am planing to print some more from the same ranges.



Speaking of terrain, I know Grimdark Terrain seems to be popular with AT players, I've seen some forts, trains etc. but I am uncertain if they make any regular housing at all? It seems very special stuff, but cool nonetheless. Their catalogue is a bit painful to slog through, and it looks like a Patron account is the way to go?

And speaking of Adeptus Titanicus, the game seems to concentrate on Horus Heresy times primarily? What about using Titans in actual 40k, I assume they're still around? And how does one move Titans around off-planet? They must have some landing pods or something surely? Has this been covered anywhere?

[fred]

Looking good - I’d suggest you could print the buildings a bit bigger if you want them to be more imposing! Certainly against the land raider they don’t look too big at all.

Titans are a thing in 40k - but I’ve never worried about how they move around between planets - actually I’ve never really been too bothered about the space travel bit in 40k at all. The whole Tech level seems so bizarre that its as easy just to accept the units you are given!

[YPU]

It's mentioned that the adaptus mechanicus have giant even by 40k standard space craft for the purpose of transporting titans. The first gaunts ghosts novels has them transported on one as a "reward" for liberating a forge world.

Epic Armageddon which definitely deals with 40k era rather than 30k definitely uses titans a plenty. "You can field your titans against my puny infantry" is always a strong argument for converting titanicus players to epic.

I agree on the buildings, it's interesting considering the first epic games came with cardboard highrises.

[Verderer]

Oh yeah, those, from Space Marine I think? I might actually have them stashed someplace...I've certainly seen the plastic roof sections pretty recently. I remember the original AT had some buildings too but they were some kind of pressed foam material?

[Verderer]

One more building, this is a hab tower made by Bits Blitz Designs, downloaded it from Cults.



I actaulla scaled it up to 130% in size, as it looked a little small in comparison with my other buildings. Maybe it's true 6mm, but in any case now the floors height and door sized are pretty close to the building on the left. Not that it's that important. The little dudes on the balconies I estimate are about 7 or 8mm tall.

This is blue tacked together, it's a multipart model.

[fred]

I like that nice and imposing! Should block LoS even for a Titan.

Not entirely sure about the balconies - they seem very large for what they are - but adds a bit of detail to the building.

[Verderer]

True, I am kinda undecided on them too; but there are nicely options for all sides: without balconies (so just windows), one balcony per level with windows on both sides, or two balconies per level without any windows...and an optional roof with less features.

The balconies are separate pieces, so you could replace with with, say, walkways to connect two or more towers to create a mega tower...

[fred]

Walkways - you need some of those, and obviously another tower or two to walk between!

I think aerial walkways give that extra Sci-fi feel - even if in a battle zone they would be the first things to come crashing down!