YPU's Epic obsession. Incubi p3

[LouieN]

Really impressive.  Was it printed on a resin or filament printer?

[Daeothar]

Works like a dream!  (or nightmare, in this particular case )

[YPU]

and where there is a raider, surely there is a ravager not far behind.

[Daeothar]

You're killing it again! 

Just imagine entire squadrons of 'em zooming across the battlefield...

Will you do an Asdrubael Vect-like barge?

[YPU]

Cheers!

Just imagine entire squadrons of 'em zooming across the battlefield...

Will you do an Asdrubael Vect-like barge?

Zooming around and getting cut down left and right as they are light vehicles and thus susceptible to both anti-tank and anti-personnel fire.  Speedy buggers though, hard to pin down.

I'm planning to work my way up from basic units to specialized. Wyches will probably be next, then maybe one of the flier types (bikes, boards or birds?) Once all that is done, or I'm bored, I want to do characters. Having some characters that slot into the skimmers would not be a bad idea! Though I think putting your archon in a raider/reaver is a terrible idea game wise its too cool not to model.

[Daeothar]

Zooming around and getting cut down left and right as they are light vehicles and thus susceptible to both anti-tank and anti-personnel fire.  Speedy buggers though, hard to pin down.

Yeah, there's that. Still cool though and they probably like a bit of pain anyway... 

I'm planning to work my way up from basic units to specialized. Wyches will probably be next, then maybe one of the flier types (bikes, boards or birds?) Once all that is done, or I'm bored, I want to do characters. Having some characters that slot into the skimmers would not be a bad idea! Though I think putting your archon in a raider/reaver is a terrible idea game wise its too cool not to model.

Nice. My vote is for the bikes after the Wyches though; as long as we're talking about speedy and fragile... 

In 40K, Asdrubael Vect is on what is basically a pimped out Ravager. But it's not used in that capacity; it's basically ablative armour that also grants him added speed. In a larger game, his role should probably be redefined, but this could be fun also.

And let's not forget the Haemoculae; they have some interesting toys too! Not the least of which is the Talos; that could be fun to create...

[YPU]

Aye I think Vect using the regular archon rules should work fine honestly at this scale and abstraction. I'm not sure if my skills are up to sculpting his erm, entourage, yet.


Yeah the next sculpting is a hard one.
-Reavers are the fastest unit in EA I think, but hoverbikes arent that unique, you could arguably use one of the existing eldar bikes in dark colours and be happy so I'm not really filling a huge gap.
-Hellions have hoverboards! also I probably also only need to sculpt the board and weapon and then just use the wych bodyparts for them, so relatively quick job though not sure jet how to make them strong enough. You'll notice all the warriors here have a loincloth or other third point of contact to make them less brittle.
-Scourges. Wings sound both exiting and challenging to do right, but I could probably again re-use warrior and wych bodies, sculpt a couple bird like helmets for them. Posing again a challenge though I think just doing flying stands on them can be forgiven there?

And yes haemonculae. The surgeons from hell are going to be fun, they haven't changed much between editions so I'm good there. their creatons though. the AE list uses Grotesques, which used to look like this:




but the name grotesque is now used for these:





with a new unit called wracks introduced that are closer to the old grotesques




Stat wise we are looking at this:



descent save, great close combat no ranged capacity whatsoever, and fearless so no impression on them. (not that it would matter most of the time, they have no ranged weapon so get skipped)

I'm not tied to the old sculpts, they don't read well at 28mm and at 6mm would be pretty unrecognizable. There isn't a lot there to work with for me. The new wracks are much more interesting but again, at 6mm they might end up looking very close to the haemonculi themselves which they are mixed in with, and I'd like to provide some good table top recognizability here. I might do something closer to the new grotesques, hulking stooped shapes with big blades and claws, seems fitting, maybe a bit smaller or only 3 to a base? I'm not sold on that yet.

In the same manner, I noticed that the new 28mm wracks actually come with parts to crew a raider with them. I love that idea, if I actually make it that far I would like to do that, but not sure if that would work with the big guys... Both is an obvious option but that's doubling my work for not that much payoff game wise. So undecided. I could ofcourse also just try to make my own interpretation of the concept, see if something pops into my head before I get to them.

Also worth noting that the new wracks in basic, topless with skirts, armed with hooks and choppers is very close to the new look of mandrakes. the old mandrakes were pretty much just male wyches so I'd prefer to use the newer look (though maybe offering 2optiosn with pistol and magic blasts both?) but that pretty much reserves that overall profile of look for them.

Talos is absolutely a go, I'd like to try for the styling of the new one, with rounded armor etc but the overall posture of the old one, more scorpion-like. I have to say though vanguard miniatures proxy model for it is fantastic looking.

[YPU]

I wanted to have some wyches to hang off the raider as well, so I've started those now. I'm going to try and lean into that one side armored other side near nude look extra hard, roman gladiator style. This does also mean sculpting belly buttons and arm musculature at 6mm because that's what I do now apparently.

[Daeothar]

 

This looks great though, bellybutton included!

[fred]

Impressive! Must be hard to judge when digitally sculpting how things will come out when printed?

[YPU]

Impressive! Must be hard to judge when digitally sculpting how things will come out when printed?

Thanks! And aye I'd say its half the skill, getting the shapes you want is one thing, but knowing what level of exaggeration and enhancement is needed at what scale to have the details actually show up, even under a coat of paint, is the second half.

[Major_Gilbear]

Well done YPU, these look great! I'm very impressed with how "readable" the prints are, as even the official GW Epic figures sometimes struggled.

[YPU]

Thanks, Gilbear. I don't have to account for older plastic injection machines like the official gw plastic figures had, which helps a lot!

I tried posing a wych but boy is that going to be a learning experience. They are quite dynamic ain't they?

[OSHIROmodels]

Brill 

[Major_Gilbear]

Thanks, Gilbear. I don't have to account for older plastic injection machines like the official gw plastic figures had, which helps a lot!

Yes, I imagine it does! Same in fact for any type of moulding at this scale I imagine?

I tried posing a wych but boy is that going to be a learning experience. They are quite dynamic ain't they?

They are, but since you mention the casting limitations above, this could be a good moment to look at how GW did some of theirs (Eldar, Tyranids, and Orks all had at least some more dynamically-posed models at some point)? They're often quite good solutions to present some action in a model in such a way that it's not too delicate on the base either - nothing worse than breaking a model during a game!