Author Topic: Japanese in M1930 uniforms coming - MORE pictures!(12/29/09) (Read 13147 times)

former user · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2009, 05:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Jim Hale on December 30, 2009, 05:36:56 PM

While I'm sure you meant no offence former user, there are people who would find the use of the word 'nip' to be offensive. I don't wish to crack the 'PC whip' to you or anyone else, but shall we just attempt to keep things polite?

oh sorry, sorry
I only wanted to use the period term, and thought the offensive one was "jap"

I apologize, my misconception

so nipponese soldier would be the polite one though?

Arlequín · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2009, 09:54:21 PM »

Well your guess is as good as mine there... Japanese is the safe bet, but I would think myself that Nipponese would also be fine. I'm actually at a loss as to why they might be offensive in the first place... I don't find 'Brit' offensive after all. But apparently they are.

Helen · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:03:31 PM »

Have a look on the Axis forum under the Japanese at War subject and check their protocols in the use of certain words.

Helen

Doc Twilight · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:04:12 PM »

Quote from: Jim Hale on December 30, 2009, 09:54:21 PM

Well your guess is as good as mine there... Japanese is the safe bet, but I would think myself that Nipponese would also be fine. I'm actually at a loss as to why they might be offensive in the first place... I don't find 'Brit' offensive after all. But apparently they are.

Basically, during the 1930s, and later during the war, "Jap" and "Nip" were used as insults and racial epithets as well as general descriptives. Nip was considered to be the more "deragatory." (Jap was still vaguely acceptable after "Nip" had fallen out of fashion.) I can't speak for all Japanese individuals, but I had a good Japanese friend who was fine with "Jap" in an historical sense, but considered "Nip" to be the Japanese equivalent of another very unfortunate "N-word" used to describe persons of color.

Can't explain the psychology, just telling you what little I know about the situation.

-Doc

Doc Twilight · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:08:36 PM »

Quote from: former user on December 30, 2009, 12:28:44 PM

nobody wears steel helmets all the time - maybe for propaganda photographs, and possibly steel helmets were not discarded that often in the disciplined japanese army, but without shellfire and trenches, steel helmets would be obsolete.
so no problems with nipponese soldiers in soft caps

Granted, but the point is that "official policy" for Japanese troops on patrol in "hot zones" like Shanghai was to wear the cherry blossom. Now, yes, you do see evidence of the soft cap, especially after it was discovered just how fragile the cherry blossom was (made of an inferior grade of steel that cracked like an eggshell, not unlike the highly sulfurous steel used by Italian tank manufacturers), and I'm not saying it wasn't common. But six out of every ten soldiers in my -own- photo collection (not the link you provided, Arg) are wearing the cherry blossom.

At any rate, these are all in the cherry blossom for two reasons.

1. People (including me) wanted them. (Nobody makes them in cherry blossoms, currently; it's a very iconic look)
2. This is, again, only the initial run. I -promise- that there will be soft caps coming, soon, really:) Give me time to get the range rolling!

For those interested, Washiji is actually wearing an historically correct rain cape. The only "non-historical" detail is that face plate.
Because he's a pulp character for the Shanghai, 1930 universe I wanted to give him a somewhat "exotic" look.

-Alex

former user · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:14:31 PM »

OK - see, wrong assumption from my side because I thought something closer to Nippon would be better

sorry again

edit: can't find the protocol, too many topics...

odd duck · « **Reply #36 on:** January 02, 2010, 08:03:47 PM »

The sculpts look great,I look forward to seeing them in production,I'm pretty new to this era so that link from argsilverson is much appreciated.Love the cavalry horses with the sunhats

.but can anyone tell me anything about those two armored motorboats http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=105642&start=615 about halfway down the page?they keep saying scratchbuild me and I can't find any info on any naval websites!sorry if I'm getting off topic!

argsilverson · « **Reply #37 on:** January 02, 2010, 10:36:53 PM »

Quote from: odd duck on January 02, 2010, 08:03:47 PM

The sculpts look great,I look forward to seeing them in production,I'm pretty new to this era so that link from argsilverson is much appreciated.Love the cavalry horses with the sunhats .but can anyone tell me anything about those two armored motorboats http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=105642&start=615 about halfway down the page?they keep saying scratchbuild me and I can't find any info on any naval websites!sorry if I'm getting off topic!

scratchbuilting the gunboats! my thought when I saw them!

former user · « **Reply #38 on:** January 02, 2010, 11:31:49 PM »

here, I linked the pic

finding something there is really a mess

these are really cute - just what I was looking for

anyone with good eye measure any guess how big they are?

odd duck · « **Reply #39 on:** January 02, 2010, 11:44:55 PM »

Hard to tell without a human figure in the pic. but I think 9or 10 meters?

former user · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2010, 11:47:11 PM »

from the height of the cabin and the 75 mm gun I tend to agree, some 10m +, so basically some 18-20 cm in 28mm scale, which is just fine for us, unless we want to fit @Akula boots

odd duck · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2010, 11:57:49 PM »

75mm? I was wondering about that ,as i said kinda new to this era.now if we could only find a shot from the stern

Dan · « **Reply #42 on:** January 03, 2010, 08:14:46 AM »

Quote from: former user on January 02, 2010, 11:31:49 PM

here, I linked the pic

finding something there is really a mess

these are really cute - just what I was looking for

anyone with good eye measure any guess how big they are?

I have an old Hovels 20mm model of those boats . The access door is at the rear of the forward cabin and comes to just below the top of the windows which could be useful to scale them . I've not seen a photo of these before so was a bit unsure of where to fit the turrets (if I ever get around to making it )

former user · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2010, 08:23:18 AM »

maybe You could take some pictures with a 20 mm doll please?

I am not an expert on boats, so I was wondering what kind of vessel this is. If it is a riverboat, it should have a rather flat keel, but then it looks high built and armoured, which would put the center of weight rather high? I wouldn't expect it to be very high sea-worthy, it is also short - more like a launch.

Anyway, in tactical terms the design looks good to me and it also seems not improvised, but rather standardized - it reminds me of the well armoured shell of german E-boats.

Doc Twilight · « **Reply #44 on:** January 03, 2010, 09:05:36 AM »

Actually, it's an armed landing craft, so essentially a launch, yes.

-Doc

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