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Author Topic: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range  (Read 34086 times)

Offline gringo

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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #150 on: December 20, 2011, 09:49:32 AM »
Arthur

your back! many thanks for the new swathe of info. Hard Drive went
on computer last week.........1/100 chance of saving everything. i was
a lucky gringo!!.......computer guy installing mobile back up hard drive
today .........phew!!

the "ambush" scenario is pretty exciting for a wargame.......not sure if
i can strech to getting a carriage done! the artillery crew and equipment are superb, the smaller pieces look like 12pdr mountain guns..if you have any more uniforms or equipment shots that would be cool... thanks  ;)


best regards
Ged
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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #151 on: December 20, 2011, 11:52:26 AM »
Wow! Good stuff Arthur. This is getting better and better.

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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2012, 10:57:36 AM »
I'm reviving this thread with French staff uniforms as per Ged's request.

French staff essentially fell into three categories : the general officers, the corps d'état-major (staff officers proper) and the various ADC's attached to headquarters on an ad hoc basis. The first two were permanent corps whereas the ADC's were simply infantry or cavalry officers seconded from their parent unit for the duration of a campaign. Generals had an elaborate full dress uniform which I won't bother describing here since it was never worn in the field. Typical campaign dress for the generals consisted in a plain single-breasted black undress frock coat with an epaulette on each shoulder. Headgear was a kepi, occasionally worn with a white cover if the climate demanded it.

Corps d'état-major officers wore a full-dress coatee and bicorne for parades and ceremonial occasions, but field dress consisted of either the very elegant undress spencer jacket (a braided dolman virtually identical to that worn by Chasseurs d'Afrique and Spahi officers, except that it was dark blue instead of light blue and red respectively), or the ubiquitous dark blue or black single-breasted frock coat worn with epaulettes on both shoulders and an aiguillette on the right shoulder. The trousers were red. Kepis were worn in the field instead of the bicorne, often with a white cover although sombreros could occasionally be seen as well. Most period paintings and photographs show staff officers in frock coats, albeit with a sprinkling of dark blue/black braided jackets here and there.

Beaucé's paintings occasionally show Spahi officers attached to Forey or Bazaine's staff as ADC's, as seen in the Assault on Puebla below or Forey's entry into Mexico City. This is intriguing as no Spahi squadrons served in Mexico, but since Bazaine came from the African army he may conceivably have attached a few spahi officers to his staff before sailing from France.

Most paintings show French staff dressed with few concessions to the Mexican climate apart from white covers and curtains on the kepis, and frock coats worn open to reveal a waistcoat and body sash underneath, though that may be because the actions depicted essentially take place in the cooler highlands. Bazaine did cut quite a dashing figure in his white half-cape and kepi cover : note his non-regulation jaguar-skin pistol holsters, which were supposed to make him appear as a modern-day reincarnation of an Aztec conqueror, the jaguar being associated with the Aztec emperors of legend. 



Here is the photo Beaucé based his painting upon :



A corps d'état-major officer in full dress :



A corps d'état-major officer in undress spencer braided jacket (sorry for the poor picture) :



General Forey and his staff entering Mexico city. Note the spahi officer in red in the background.



Finally, here's a Roger Fenton photograph of General Bosquet in the Crimea wit his staff : two corps d'état-major officers in frock coats and two African army cavalry ADC's, one a spahi and the other a chasseur d'Afrique.





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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #153 on: January 18, 2012, 11:03:28 AM »
Forgot to add Beaucés painting on the assault on Puebla. Bazaine and his staff are in the center directing operations. Note the two spahi ADC's in red braided jackets and light blue trousers on the right.



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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2012, 05:22:30 PM »
Arthur

many thanks indeed there is some superb uniform information

scattered throughout these wonderfull images..............digesting

as we speak!!.

regards

ged  www.gringo40s.com ;)

Offline Arthur

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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #155 on: January 22, 2012, 05:47:24 PM »
I'll even throw in a general in black undress frock coat for good measure  :D :



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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #156 on: January 22, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »
Arthur excelellente my man...........hes a tempting figure to do......

i guess the Aides de campe followed along General Officer lines but

more subjued less fancy lace and chicken guts/austrian Knotts?

the generals etc are proving very interesting indeed ;)

many thanks and regards Ged

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Offline Arthur

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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #157 on: January 23, 2012, 09:27:53 PM »
Dunno how far you and Ian are willing to go with the staff, but my suggestion would be a set of three figures : one general in open frock coat, one ADC wearing a frock coat adorned with epaulettes and aiguillette, one ADC wearing the braided hussar-type jacket known as a spencer in proper Franglais and (poorly) illustrated in one of the pics above. With a different paint job, the latter can also be used as an officer of both spahis or Chasseurs d'Afrique, since the cut of the jacket was identical.

And let's not forget that Bazaine personality figure with white half-cape and covered kepi...  :D   

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Re: lieutenant Egyptian battalion available now/28mm Maximillian range
« Reply #158 on: January 24, 2012, 08:51:00 AM »
Arthur

thanks gor your input.Bazaine for sure has to be done with his funcky

half cape and a smattering of multi-purpose General Staff and officers

not sure of the exact composition as yet, but your suggestions are

good! :)

regards Ged  www,gringo40s.com

 

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