Lead Painters' League Season 6 Rules

[Orctrader]

no worries, it's still in 1991 or before 

I was unclear, sorry.

Thanks.  (Heavy sigh of relief...)   

[OSHIROmodels]

Round ten, I'm assuming that there is only one set of bonus points awarded for the large element and not a bonus award for multiple large elements (what I mean is there is only one bonus no matter how many large elements are included)?

cheers

James

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Round ten, I'm assuming that there is only one set of bonus points awarded for the large element and not a bonus award for multiple large elements (what I mean is there is only one bonus no matter how many large elements are included)?

Yes, Jim, only one bonus.

[artshiraz]

Greetings

one more question:

Timings, Registration and Deadlines

I do understand the teams for the various rounds must be received at lpl at 12:00 GMT. But we can send them earlier, can't we? I mean it's only the admission email which has to be at an appointed time and not earlier, right? Admission is Monday, first three rounds have to be in Saturday at 12:00 ... and each other round the same until end of the LPL 6. But entries can be send in the whole week but prior to the weekly deadline at 12:00 GMT

Jo

[Prof.Witchheimer]

exactly, after the first three teams you can send the rest ones whenever you want, though, of course "prior to the weekly deadline at 12:00 GMT"

[phreedh]

Sorry, but the bonus points application rules are still a little fuzzy. Consider the following:

Round 4 - I enter an old 1980s band of Uruk Hai from GW. They are newly painted, which means 10 bonus points.
Round 5 - I enter a team of 1980s fellowship minis, newly painted thus 10 points. Also, they get the theme bonus points. Another 10 points. If I also add in the Uruk Hai from round 4, do I get the further 10 theme bonus points? Will I still get the 10 "newly painted" points, even if half of my entry isn't newly painted?


Would be nice if we could get a matrix detailing exactly what bonus points are available in each round.

[Prof.Witchheimer]

I don't think these rules are "fuzzy". Bonus points are for "theme". As long as you enter at least 5 newly-painted figures you would receive 10 bonus points. Entering 5 "older" paint jobs to get the theme bonus wouldn't affect you, you would receive the full bonus of 10+10+10=30 points.

It would be not very fair as the other participants would paint 10 new figures but it would work. And that's the point. I have not the time and I don't really keen about closing of all possible rule gaps. It's just a fun contest with very easy and clear rules - "paint a team and get a bonus". As I wrote the rules for Season One I never did think that the members of this forum would care about things like "how can one get bonus without painting another team".  If one wants to play this way, he should do it, no problem at all. Play and get the points you want. But it's not that much important to me, I won't write more and more rules and clarifications.

Phreedh, I'm sure it's not your intention to avoid the rules, you just want to help, so thank you for the hint. But I'm a naive man and I still believe we don't need any matrix and all that as long as we won't forget what is the spirit of this forum and this competition.

Paint a team, make a photo, send it to me. That's all.

[Tomsche]

I do have one question about the bonus things though, for round one.

Not for clarification or such, but is it allowed / required / preferred to send along a picture or so showing the `age` of the models, as kinda of proof, because Stuff of Legends does have some holes left or right should it be used as a `tracer` of said model x or y?

Just wondering, if not, no jiffy, if preferred, I`ll pop some of the blister along with the round 1 entry

[Orctrader]

Paint a team, make a photo, send it to me...

 For me, that's what LPL is all about.  Simple concept.  Paint groups of figures quickly and as well as you are able.   

[Dr Mathias]

As I've been working on the first team entry, I've been thinking how much I like the LPL at it's most basic- trimming the lead pile.

I couldn't do my first team choice because I'd need to use post 1991 arms, so I went to option 2. The figures I'm painting are fantastic- I had coveted them since I was 16 and they've been in the pile on my to-do list for over a decade. I bet I would never have painted them without the 'Old Lead' theme. 

[Prof.Witchheimer]

I do have one question about the bonus things though, for round one.

Not for clarification or such, but is it allowed / required / preferred to send along a picture or so showing the `age` of the models, as kinda of proof, because Stuff of Legends does have some holes left or right should it be used as a `tracer` of said model x or y?

It's a good idea to show the age of the models, I like it.

[syrinx0]

I agree Dr M.  I just finished painting a unit I started well over a decade ago but shelved as we stopped playing that game. Having kids did cut into the free time a bit as well.

I will have to get the LOTR figures from a friend but that will reduce his pile of unpainted. 

[phreedh]

Phreedh, I'm sure it's not your intention to avoid the rules

No... ofcourse not. Erm...

Just a bit of a stickler for rules clarity. My job is to find loopholes and defects, guess I'm damaged by that. I think in round 5 and round 10 the "newly painted" bonus should only be received if both teams are newly painted. Loopholes will always be used in competitions and it's always better to say "it's not legal" than to say "it's legal, can't be bothered to change it, but you're an asshole if you use it".

Edit: BTW, the matrix was not suggested as a tool to enforce rules. Only to clarify in which rounds there are bonus points awarded, and for what. Ie:
Round 1, 10 pts theme bonus.
Round 2, no bonus.
Round 3, no bonus.
Round 4, 10 pts newly painted bonus.
Round 5, 10 pts newly painted bonus, 20 pts theme bonus.
Round 6, 10 pts newly painted bonus.
Round 7, 10 pts newly painted bonus.
Round 8, 10 pts newly painted bonus.
Round 9, 10 pts newly painted bonus.
Round 10, 10 pts newly painted bonus, 30 pts theme bonus.

The bonus points are often a source to confusion and questions - not only "do this and that qualify" but also how much points are awarded and in what rounds. A graph like this in the announcment would probably cut back on those rather common questions.

[Tomsche]

2 and 3 have `newly painted bonus` as well I thought btw...

[Prof.Witchheimer]

No... ofcourse not. Erm...

Just a bit of a stickler for rules clarity. My job is to find loopholes and defects, guess I'm damaged by that. I think in round 5 and round 10 the "newly painted" bonus should only be received if both teams are newly painted. Loopholes will always be used in competitions and it's always better to say "it's not legal" than to say "it's legal, can't be bothered to change it, but you're an asshole if you use it".

I know what you mean and of course you're right. I will consider taking that into the rules for the next season. For this one I wouldn't like to change anything. Too many changes could be confusing as well.

But I will put your matrix to the rules.

2 and 3 have `newly painted bonus` as well I thought btw...

All applicants MUST submit THREE newly-painted (previously unpublished) teams in time for the first round

No newly-painted bonus for the first three rounds as all entrants are submitting newly-painted teams. Wouldn't make much sense.