wizkids star trek: attack wing

[Whitwort Stormbringer]

Yeah, I would second that the Valdore would be my top pick for a second Romulan ship, followed by the Praetus if you're not bothered by mixing eras, or the Apnex if you want to stay in TNG/DS9 era.

For Klingons, really either the Neg'Var or the Koraga (the Bird of Prey) look great, but I don't have much experience with either.  Thematically, I would say that the one drawback to the Bird of Prey is that it's mostly captained/crewed by Klingons that have strong ties to the Federation, so it might be a bit odd with Worf at the helm trying to blow up the Defiant 

For Federation, I personally lean towards the Defiant, but the TOS Enterprise has some great crew upgrades.  The Excelsior seems cool, haven't had a chance to try it out yet, though.

I haven't even really looked at the Dominion, yet, but after getting whipped by the new Cardassian ship I'm a little more interested in the viability of a Dominion fleet.

Re: scale, yeah, it's a bummer.  I'm not personally too invested in worrying about scale, and they would have trouble representing some of the ships if they did worry about it (Defiant and Jem'Hadar attack ships would be tiny!), but I did see these over on BoardGameGeek:
1/5000 Defiant
1/5000 Bird of Prey
1/7000 Reliant

[Agis]

Don't let the scale stop you from playing the game. It's such a minor quibble once you start playing that it doesn't matter. It's not as if the movement is really in any kind of scale either. I tend to think of the ships as markers on a viewer map. As a commander of a fleet directing battle all of my ships should represented as dots the same size. I don't want to squint around trying to find the minuscule dot for the Defiant just so I can issue it an order.

All valid points!
Indeed no tabletop space game could use any real scale.
But seeing a Defiant as big as a Romualn Deridex on the same table is still somhow disturbing vor me...

I would have like at least 3 different sizes in this game: Huge (Borg cube), Normal (1701-D / E), Small (BoP, Defiant, Jem Hadar).

Maybe I pick a smaller scale, like 1/7000 and try to get some via Shapeways...

[Bergil]

I tend to think of the ships as markers on a viewer map.

Might as well use carboard counters then and save yourself an arm and a leg.. 

I dunno though, I've got mixtures of star destroyers, defiants and even fighter groups in my collection so far. Printed off they work fine 'scaled' together. Just that fighter markers have an outlined image of a fighter increased in size so you can see what the damned thing is!

I guess i'm just saying I'd buy into it if it was scaled, I suppose to me it just matters. As for models I have my Micromachine Miranda Class, Galaxy Class and DS9. (No, they ain't scaled!  )

Daft I know...

[obsidian3d]

I picked up a 9-pack set of MicroMachines Star Trek ships at a local game shop last weekend (for only $20!). The Excelsior, Reliant, Vor'cha, Romulan D'deridex are almost all identical in size to the Wizkids models. The 1701 Enterprise is much bigger (ok WAY bigger) than the Wizkids one. It's so large in fact that it's way too big. I'll likely convert these to use the flightpath pegs so that I can use the others as generics. I do quite like having my named Federation ships with their registry numbers, and might consider trying to find a Defiant and Enterprise D from SW Tactics or something so that they match.

[The_Beast]

Only real problem I had was the tiny 1701; even the relatively small Reliant dwarfs it.

I like a little indication of relative sizes, but through most of my vacchead gaming, definitely holographic rep, with a point at the top of the pole being the REAL ship, or even base.

Doug

[Commander Roj]

All valid points!
Indeed no tabletop space game could use any real scale.
But seeing a Defiant as big as a Romualn Deridex on the same table is still somhow disturbing vor me...

I would have like at least 3 different sizes in this game: Huge (Borg cube), Normal (1701-D / E), Small (BoP, Defiant, Jem Hadar).

Maybe I pick a smaller scale, like 1/7000 and try to get some via Shapeways...

That works for me.

[Lord GreyWolf]

I am about ready to add in some more ships to our Star Trek collection.

So far we have just the starter but the kids each want a new ship.

Daughter: Federation
Son: Klingon
Me: Romulan

I am very tempted for the Valdore but is there any other ship that is worth getting?

as for Fed's/Klingon's  anyone got any ideas?

Also what expansion pack do I need to get so I can get the Tribble card>

LGW

[Too Bo Coo]

Valdore is good, Enterprise gives you Tribbles and the Excelsior looks pretty sweet.

Anything Klingon seems pretty deadly....

Happy Xmas!

[Lord GreyWolf]

I take it that your meaning the Captain Kirk Enterprise?

yeah the Son is lucky any Klingon will be great. I think he has his heart set on the Bird of Prey. not sure when that is to be released but will have to get him one.

I'll try and do some goggling to see what a good mix will be,.

LGW

[emperorpenguin]

Valdore is good, Enterprise gives you Tribbles and the Excelsior looks pretty sweet.

No that's incorrect - the Tribbles come with the Klingon D7 IKS G'roth

I think he has his heart set on the Bird of Prey. not sure when that is to be released but will have to get him one. LGW

The December release for the Klingons is the IKS Koraga - K'vort class bird of prey. It has been delayed this side of the atlantic though, but we should see it in early January

For the Romulans you must get the Valdore, not only for the ship but the only co-operative mission: Destroy the Scimitar
After that I'd say the Praetus then the Apnex. The Vo is a poor ship, there won't be another decent Romulan until the bird of prey in February

For the Klingons - Negh'Var, Koraga then either G'Roth or Kronos One

For the Federation - Defiant or Kirk's Enterprise, then Excelsior and Reliant

Only the Romulans have duff ships so far sadly

[Lord GreyWolf]

Only the Romulans have duff ships so far sadly

duff ships?

LGW

[emperorpenguin]

Sorry, using some very British expressions! It means crap

The Vo is very poor, the Apnex is ok and the Praetus is only ok

[Lord GreyWolf]

ok thx I get it now.

So with regards to the "tribble tactics" could I use them with my Romulans?

and do I have to pay more for it?

I have the D'deridex so far for my Romulans the Voldare is on my order list.
just need to sort out a ship each for the kids.

Just watched the "tribble" episode it was entertaining and I certainly would love the "fun" aspect of teleporting tribbles to my kid's ships.

LGW

[emperorpenguin]

Yes Tribbles are "Independent" so you'd pay the +1 faction penalty for using them with Romulans. They're tricky to use, requiring dropped shields, but can hamper Klingons quite a bit

[King Tiger]

Sorry, using some very British expressions! It means crap

The Vo is very poor, the Apnex is ok and the Praetus is only ok

How so?, if your playing a scenario which requires a science vessel....surely you people play scenarios right?........right?.........oh.

Advice to fed players though, avoid using all TNG era ships, get them for the cards, but never waste points using them, those 90 degree fire arcs are deathtraps