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Offline McMordain

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12780 on: December 02, 2024, 11:48:35 AM »
I thought I saw someone do a conversion of WHFB for MESBG Battle Companies. I’ll have to look for it later.

It's very easy to mod the Middle-Earth SBG for anything. Even GW did it way back when they had the Warhammer Historical line with the Legends of the Old West and Legends of the Seven Seas books. Also there was a whole Yahoo group for fan made SBG mods.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12781 on: December 02, 2024, 12:34:25 PM »
It's very easy to mod the Middle-Earth SBG for anything. Even GW did it way back when they had the Warhammer Historical line with the Legends of the Old West and Legends of the Seven Seas books. Also there was a whole Yahoo group for fan made SBG mods.

It really is a criminally under utilized rule system on GW's part. If they ever did a hard reset on 40k and wiped the rule slate clean, I'd want them to use MESBG as the starting point.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12782 on: December 02, 2024, 01:41:49 PM »
The story I heard was that the MESBG system was designed to be 'WHFB 2.0'; and be a complete fresh ground up re-write. This wasn't popular with upper management at the time, and so it went on the shelf until the LOTR contract demanded a distinct rules set. But the design teams belief/fondness for it is why it kept turning up in the Warhammer Historicals line.

I have been meaning to do a Warhammer conversion for MESBG, but never get around to it. There is/was a thread discussing modification to turn it into not-Mordheim the other year (Tales from the Ruined city or some such? IT does the leg work for some of it, but is human warband focused)
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12783 on: December 02, 2024, 03:13:25 PM »
The story I heard was that the MESBG system was designed to be 'WHFB 2.0'; and be a complete fresh ground up re-write. This wasn't popular with upper management at the time, and so it went on the shelf until the LOTR contract demanded a distinct rules set. But the design teams belief/fondness for it is why it kept turning up in the Warhammer Historicals line.

I have been meaning to do a Warhammer conversion for MESBG, but never get around to it. There is/was a thread discussing modification to turn it into not-Mordheim the other year (Tales from the Ruined city or some such? IT does the leg work for some of it, but is human warband focused)

I always thought it's make a great framework for a reboot of inquisitor. Although I also think warcry would work well for that, I think MESBG manages scale far better than any other GW system. that you can play with 9 figures and 90 and it still works just as well.


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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12784 on: December 02, 2024, 06:17:22 PM »
I always thought it's make a great framework for a reboot of inquisitor. Although I also think warcry would work well for that, I think MESBG manages scale far better than any other GW system. that you can play with 9 figures and 90 and it still works just as well.

I thought models acted individually...sounds like a right pain with more than 20 minis on a table. How does it manage it? Cheers
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12785 on: December 02, 2024, 06:57:28 PM »
I thought models acted individually...sounds like a right pain with more than 20 minis on a table. How does it manage it? Cheers

While models are “individual”, it’s not hard to manage larger games, say 50ish models. Groups of like models - say, a groups of archers, move and act as one. So it definitely works. Heroes are straight up individuals though.

That’s how - and it’s a fun game. Criminally underappreciated!
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12786 on: December 02, 2024, 10:24:18 PM »
While models are “individual”, it’s not hard to manage larger games, say 50ish models. Groups of like models - say, a groups of archers, move and act as one. So it definitely works. Heroes are straight up individuals though.

That’s how - and it’s a fun game. Criminally underappreciated!

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Amazon now has the rights to 40K and option on WHFB
« Reply #12787 on: December 16, 2024, 06:58:13 PM »
Last week Amazon & GW signed the licence agreement formerly giving Amazon control over the 40K universe for movies, merchandise, spin off products and in the small print fans last drops of blood (allegedly).

So what are the thoughts of the 40K fans here, will it remain as it is or does GW buckle and allow canon to get "Rings of Power'd" for the fabled vast modern audiences?
Girl Boss Space Marines are pretty much inevitable, Female Primarchs? Misunderstood, family minded Orks? yeah probably. Any other thoughts.

And what about the potential impact for WHFB?


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Re: Amazon now has the rights to 40K and option on WHFB
« Reply #12788 on: December 16, 2024, 07:07:34 PM »
Last week Amazon & GW signed the licence agreement formerly giving Amazon control over the 40K universe for movies, merchandise, spin off products and in the small print fans last drops of blood (allegedly).

So what are the thoughts of the 40K fans here, will it remain as it is or does GW buckle and allow canon to get "Rings of Power'd" for the fabled vast modern audiences?
Girl Boss Space Marines are pretty much inevitable, Female Primarchs? Misunderstood, family minded Orks? yeah probably. Any other thoughts.

And what about the potential impact for WHFB?

Well there was always the two missing redacted Legions lol I will not be waiting with baited breath!
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12789 on: December 16, 2024, 07:18:21 PM »
If Henry Cavill is behind it, he will stay close to the lore.
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Offline Belligerentparrot

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12790 on: December 16, 2024, 07:41:05 PM »
Last week Amazon & GW signed the licence agreement formerly giving Amazon control over the 40K universe for movies, merchandise, spin off products and in the small print fans last drops of blood (allegedly).

So what are the thoughts of the 40K fans here, will it remain as it is or does GW buckle and allow canon to get "Rings of Power'd" for the fabled vast modern audiences?
Girl Boss Space Marines are pretty much inevitable, Female Primarchs? Misunderstood, family minded Orks? yeah probably. Any other thoughts.

Girl-boss Space Marines would be fucking excellent, thanks! I'd love that.

Has GW ever managed to produce any decent content like this on its own? I don't subscribe to Warhammer TV so don't know, but everything I've half-noticed has looked pure shite. Also, those cartoon strips that used to be on the GW website were only funny if you were really into the fluff. So GW clearly need some outside help in making something with a) half-decent production values and b) that draws people in rather than only works if you're already in.

But even if its crap, if cool minis come out of it I'll be happy. The minis are the most important thing after all.

 

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12791 on: December 16, 2024, 10:41:48 PM »
If Henry Cavill is behind it, he will stay close to the lore.

If there's one group of people who should never have creative control over something, it's fans of that thing. Just hand it off to someone that knows nothing about it, give them complete creative freedom, and then see what their spin on it is.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12792 on: December 16, 2024, 11:08:47 PM »
If Henry Cavill is behind it, he will stay close to the lore.

Sadly, that is what we said about the Witcher. All fine and dandy until he pointed out they were straying too far from canon, then he found himself being labelled a toxic, white misogynistic bigot and they got him cancelled from the series.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12793 on: December 17, 2024, 12:14:22 AM »
Yep, Cavill is hosed...every time he has an interest in something, they ruin it.

While I wouldn't be watching it anyway...I don't trust Amazon to produce anything of value or quality (then again I don't imagine modern GW would in the first place, so I view this as a lateral move).
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #12794 on: December 17, 2024, 01:24:03 AM »
The first short was quite fun, I thought. Although the standout in the Secret Level anthology was the creepy as hell Pac-Man short!  :o

 

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