Eastern Front c.1914 - update 29 Oct

[armchairgeneral]

Not really, they are fine for RCW irregulars, but not Imperial Russians c.1914. Though there is one officer that I thought close enough to paint as a dismounted cavalry staff officer.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Old Glory/Battle Honours any good? (Sorry I guess you have done all this surfing already)

http://www.oldglory15s.com/Russian_c274.htm

[janner]

Oh, I didn't know about the Battle Honours range - many thanks 

[cuprum]

Not really, they are fine for RCW irregulars, but not Imperial Russians c.1914. Though there is one officer that I thought close enough to paint as a dismounted cavalry staff officer.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

I do not think so. Here this set is well suited for the creation of the Russian regular cavalry to 1914. Differences Cossack (except Caucasian Cossacks) and regular cavalry insignificant.



In picture Lancers, so they are armed with pikes:

[mrtn]

Nice work mate, saw them on FB as well.

[cuprum]

Oh shit! I lost one detail. The Cossacks carbine hanging over his right shoulder, in the  of army cavalry - over the left shoulder. Then you need to take the cavalry of the Bolsheviks, having forage cap on his head.

[janner]

By regular cavalry, I am thinking of the regiments of hussars, uhlans, and dragoons that made up cavalry brigades, alongside the regular cossacks.

The bridle and sword hilt on these look wrong for these types of regular horse, as is, in my opinion, the webbing and they lack bayonets. However, with some conversion work, they could work for regular cossacks.

I understand that uhlans still wore the czapka in the field in 1914 and, of course, their jackets and caps make them unsuitable for hussars.

Edit: I do have some of these that I run as regular cossacks - needs must 

[cuprum]

The Cossacks had a saber Caucasus (Asian) of the sample:



Saber Army sample:



There are some other differences between sabers and various regiments kinds of troops, but for 28mm scale figures they can be boldly ignored.
Other types of swords, broadswords, etc. in combat condition does not apply.

The difference in harness and landing in the saddle between the Cossacks and the army cavalry:



One more nuance - the Cossacks do not have spurs and the horse controlled using the whip.

Field uniforms infantry and cavalry was almost the same, except for the small parts (equipment, weapons). Also cavalry at the beginning of the war had blue pants. A little later they were replaced with khaki pants.



Private Life Guard Hussar Regiment in 1914. The field uniform Uniforms introduced on the eve of the First World War.

[janner]

The differences beteen the sabres are too great to be ignored in 28mm, in my opinion, as your images demonstrate. Thank you for those, by the way.  

I believe the bridle on the left hand picture to be inaccurate as it seems to be configered for snaffle bit, which means there is also only a single set of reins. This would not be usual for regular cavalry of the period and does not match photos I have seen of Imperial Russian horse.

Do you have any data to support the illustration of the (guard) hussar as I've seen photos that indicate that line hussars deployed in more elaborate jackets and headgear?

Edit. I thought Life Guard Hussars wore red breeches as opposed the normal cavalry blue depicted here.

Thanks again 

[cuprum]

Russian regular cavalry. Gumbinnen-Goldap battle in 1914.

Your photo is likely to have been made on maneuvers in the rear.

Yes, my picture - at regular cavalryman is not a complete horse equipment.
Full looks like this (in 1885, but there was no change):

I thought Life Guard Hussars wore red breeches as opposed the normal cavalry blue depicted here.

Hussar officers allow themselves such liberties, but later, not in 1914. In the course of the war discipline in wearing uniform down, there were various irregularities in wearing uniforms, military fashion, etc.

[janner]

Agreed on the revised tack. This is the form my research had indicated and, as you can note, it's quite different 

On the top photo, is there a matching description of which unit is caught here?

[cuprum]

Sorry, I did not quite understand what you said ...

I do not know exactly what the cavalry unit in the photo. But this is definitely not the Cossacks, because they wear carabiners - not how it is done by the Cossacks. Judging by the peaks is either the Lancers or hussars.

[janner]

I'm sorry, but I do not understand your post either.

Do you mean carbines by carabiners?

What do you mean by peaks?

On mine, it may be my use of 'tack', meaning horse furniture.

[cuprum]

Carbine - Cossack or Cavalry rifle.
The Cossacks wear rifle not how regular cavalry. They don her on the other shoulder. Always and without exception. Any Cossacks - not only the Caucasus. This is due to the feature of control the horse when Cossack harness.



Peaks - lance.

[janner]

Yes, I was aware of the claims to difference in carbine carriage, I just needed clarification on what you meant by carabiner. There are images of early war cossacks carrying their carbines on the other shoulder though. So these could still be cossacks.

On the unit, I understand that dragoon units were also equipped with lances, which would explain their wearing caps. Unfortunately it is impossible to see if they're wearing spurs.

[cuprum]

Dragoons are not were armed lances. This "Horseback infantry".
They have rifles with bayonets. At the sabers were mounted the scabbard for the bayonet.

There are images of early war cossacks carrying their carbines on the other shoulder though.

It's almost impossible. This will prevent control the horse.