Has Kickstarter finally hit rock bottom?

[gary42]

There was a table in that video?

[pixelgeek]

Even if you bought 3 of the Walmart jobbies, it's just over $100. 

Try carrying them all somewhere

[maxxon]

Does this fit Kickstarter?

I think it does:

 - It's a novel new idea for a product that no one is currently making, check.
 - It's from a small new company that really needs the funds to make it real, check.
 - No Cthulhu or zombies in sight, check.

Will I be pledging? No, I simply don't need one.

Could they have used better spelling and grammar? Certainly.
Was the girl too pretty? Well, I think she knew what she was talking about or at least had rehearsed the script pretty well, so I'm not going to hold her looks against her. If you've got it...

I think this is a very limited niche product. Unless you really need it to be lightweight, there are cheaper and better options. If it's just a space question, simple A-frame legs and a sheet or two of plywood or chipboard is sturdier, more durable and cheaper. Certainly not for everyone.

The people who have a need for a product like this will have to decide whether the price point is good or not.

[Grimmnar]

Well on this topic i have......
1 comment
- I like boobs.
1 query
- Why hasn't anyone mentioned the stools yet since everyone "loves" the table idea?

That is all.

Grimm

[Hammers]

So you're saying I should not pursue my idea for a meringue gaming table?

[Argonor]

So you're saying I should not pursue my idea for a meringue gaming table?

Anything edible goes! 

[Silent Invader]

So you're saying I should not pursue my idea for a meringue gaming table?

Go on Hammers, we'll egg you on! 

More seriously, I don't think it's rock bottom and I don't think it's a rip off.  In terms of Kickstarter ideas, somewhat simplistically there is no bottom (but there are boobs, yay  ) as it's about bringing together concept, cash, creation, etc.  As it's very clear what the product comprises for what it costs then I don't think it is a rip off: now if the campaign were misleading about the product, the capabilities of the team and/or the intent to produce then it'd be a rip off but I'm not aware of any suggestion or evidence of any of that.

What did irritate me tho was the use of so many videos.  For FAQs and Risks I'd rather read a document than watch a movie.

[Argonor]

What did irritate me tho was the use of so many videos.  For FAQs and Risks I'd rather read a document than watch a movie.

It's a surrogate for direct sales - used more and more often in these interweb times. The theory, is, you identify/sympathize with the person(s) in the video, thus you get more inclined towards buying.

Obviously doesn't work all the time 

[Too Bo Coo]

Try carrying them all somewhere

I gotcha Mate... no worries.  Buy your cardboard and enjoy .

[Major_Gilbear]

I have no idea what he video was actually about, but watching it at work without the sound, I will congratulate them on their use of the lovely lady - maybe next time she can interact with or demonstrate the product? 

So, going by the thread comments then, I gather it's some kind of overpriced cardboard gaming table?

Dunno, even something like the Citadel Realm of Battle table is usually "only" about £150, but is it lightweight, durable, modular, comes with integrated terrain details, and can be carried about in a bag they supply with the boards. And that's if you want to throw money at the problem; there are obviously cheaper solutions too.

Is the cardboard plastic-laminated at least? What stops it wobbling hilariously when you nudge it? what stops it tipping everything on the floor when you lean on one edge inadvertently?

I actually think this is rock-bottom though. Seriously, WTF does this need a KS for? If you can't raise a couple of hundred pounds from friends and family or the bank for a business project, then it doesn't really fill me with enough confidence/desire to bother supporting it either.

As for the "painted rocks" asteroids KS... Yeah, well GF9 sell the same thing but for fewer rocks and at a higher cost. So I guess it's really about somebody spotting a gap in the market and needing to make ends meet - if you look at his other (failed) projects, they were rather more impressive. I still think that EBay rather than KS is the route for this though.

In all these cases though... If you don't like it, don't support it. <shrug>

[Sangennaru]

Does this fit Kickstarter?

I think it does:

 - It's a novel new idea for a product that no one is currently making, check.
 - It's from a small new company that really needs the funds to make it real, check.
 - No Cthulhu or zombies in sight, check.

Will I be pledging? No, I simply don't need one.

Ditto at 100%.

I actually think this is rock-bottom though. Seriously, WTF does this need a KS for? If you can't raise a couple of hundred pounds from friends and family or the bank for a business project, then it doesn't really fill me with enough confidence/desire to bother supporting it either.

Ok, now i'm starting to be confused. This guy was in need for 650$ to start a decent production instead of making one or two tables, what's the problem with that? Is kickstarter only for large project? I think it should be the opposite. Maybe you are just looking at a very simple goal, but you don't want to invest money rather than time.

It's about ideas and projects, not business. Also a 15-years modeller should be able to open a simple kickstarter. Maybe their parents don't give him enough for buying silicon for a semi-pro project, and this way he will not have to invest his money when he just wants to sculpt.
Not everyone here is a businessman, although many of us have some good projects and ideas. Risking money and accomplish projects are two very separated things, and the wonderful side of KS and other crowdfunding platforms is that you don't necessarily have to mix the two things.

[pixelgeek]

I gotcha Mate... no worries.  Buy your cardboard and enjoy .

Not interested in it. Just pointing out the obvious. You seem to be missing the point behind the KS of having a collapsible, portable gaming table.

BTW, my FLGS has plenty of those white tables that they use for MtG and board games and they are not very good for tabletop gaming. You need two of them to make a decent table, they don't stay together very well and you need some board or something similar to make a flat surface to build your terrain on. Waste of time for tabletop gaming. They are even too small to play Blood Bowl on.

[Major_Gilbear]

@ Sangennaru:

The software the table designer is using is cheap/free as long as it isn't for commercial use. The KS that I highlighted was really to buy that software because he wanted to start up a business.

In other words; not just a personal project in which investors are invited to share/fund, no real need for funding from a business perspective, no especially original or risky product/design. Therefore, why does it need KS? I mean, really?

[Cubs]

On the subject of a collapsible cardboard table ... what about this?



http://move-itproducts.com/move-it-shop

1200mm (nearly 4ft) x 600mm (nearly 2ft), it weighs 4.5kg (just under 10lbs) and costs £40 (about 49 Euros) with £15 UK delivery.

[Major_Gilbear]

Not much in it Cubs. For $99 you get two in the KS, which is around the same as what two of yours would cost.

Maybe it's just me, but £55 for a 2' x 4' cardboard box and a four cardboard tubes seems bloody expensive!