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Author Topic: [Kickstarter] Mantic Dwarf Kings Quest. ALL DONE.$1.05 million final.  (Read 49167 times)

Offline maxxon

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I've been wondering about this, especially since there's really only one pledge level offered.

I like dungeon crawlers and even though I just plonked down money for Super Dungeon, I wouldn't mind a more "realistic" game.

It's just that I pretty much already have all this stuff.

- I already have a boatload of generic fantasy minis, both painted and waiting in the queue. Getting another 6 skeletons or whatever is not a huge selling point when I already have 151 painted ones, nevermind the shame pile.
- I already have a 3-D dungeon set I built, and if I really wanted to play on cardboard tiles for some reason, I still own the original GW dungeon floorplans from the 80's.
- Tokens, dice etc. Who doesn't have them?

So I guess I could buy just the rules if that was an option. Otherwise I'll have to see if this goes crazy enough to warrant buying just based on the sheer volume of figures included (though that would go against my resolution not to buy minis just because they are cheap).


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Offline Elbows

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Let's be honest...how many of us in this thread "need" this stuff?   lol  Nice to see some bonus furniture...can always use more of that.  I admit at this point the KS is doing better than I had thought it would.
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Offline Braxandur

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Honestly?

I don't need anything whatsoever :)

Still I hope to start playing light dungeon crawl games with my son within about 6-8 years and don't mind using that as an excuse to try as many systems as possible.
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Offline Quirkworthy

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If gamers bought only what they needed then the entire industry would collapse.

Offline mcfonz

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If gamers bought only what they needed then the entire industry would collapse.

Don't ever, ever say that to my wife . . . . . she thinks I need most of what I buy!!!  ;D
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Offline beefcake

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If gamers bought only what they needed then the entire industry would collapse.
  lol
Quite true of all industries that provide some form of entertainment.


Offline Elbows

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Don't ever, ever say that to my wife . . . . . she thinks I need most of what I buy!!!  ;D

Switch to what I say "well, this is from a Kickstarter I pledged for...ages ago..."  lol (crumple receipt, run and hide)

Offline Braxandur

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Switch to what I say "well, this is from a Kickstarter I pledged for...ages ago..."  lol (crumple receipt, run and hide)

euhmm...  I'm using that one for non-kickstarters related packages that show up...  the delays in all the kickstarters are already saving my *ss  ;D

Offline beefcake

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 lol
I know. I bet what will happen though is they will all arrive on one day. That's when you kick the dog out of the kennel and set up your own bed inside it.

Offline robh

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Plastic furniture stretch goal was passed last night so that set (final contents still to be decided) is now included free in the box. Next up are some more Orc type figures to bulk out the expansion pack with extras in the basic box too.

Still 2 weeks to go and currently about $405k pledged.


Offline nic-e

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Plastic furniture stretch goal was passed last night so that set (final contents still to be decided) is now included free in the box. Next up are some more Orc type figures to bulk out the expansion pack with extras in the basic box too.

Still 2 weeks to go and currently about $405k pledged.



I still see people around the Web saying this is bad value for money,  but for £60 I'm gonna be happy with half of that.
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Offline maxxev

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D&D adventure sets are £40 ish and come with 40 Figures, so with the furniture for me it's just about worth the £60, I definately would not be happy with half that for the money.

Offline robh

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The picture they are using is now split into 4 sections:
Top is the retail box core game (missing 1 still unknown hero figure) and the new scenery.
2nd is the advanced rules (may be in the box or not depending on how big it gets and the rrp they have in mind for the game)
3rd are the Kickstarter extra "free" bonus figures
4th are the Kickstarter or Mantic special promo exclusives

Assuming the rrp for the core game is around the £40-£50 mark (a similar pricing to  Mars Attacks although having less figures but a lot more rule content). If so that leaves the question, are the extra bonus figures, the exclusives and the discount on the existing Mantic figures and the Expansion worth £10-£20 more for the Kickstarter pledge?

Offline mcfonz

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The picture they are using is now split into 4 sections:
Top is the retail box core game (missing 1 still unknown hero figure) and the new scenery.
2nd is the advanced rules (may be in the box or not depending on how big it gets and the rrp they have in mind for the game)
3rd are the Kickstarter extra "free" bonus figures
4th are the Kickstarter or Mantic special promo exclusives

Assuming the rrp for the core game is around the £40-£50 mark (a similar pricing to  Mars Attacks although having less figures but a lot more rule content). If so that leaves the question, are the extra bonus figures, the exclusives and the discount on the existing Mantic figures and the Expansion worth £10-£20 more for the Kickstarter pledge?

I suppose it depends.

The next stretch goal is another set of adventures, which suggests at least, that it would be an expansion. It depends whether you think you get enough Orcs to be able to play it through properly or not.

I certainly don't think this is bad value for money. As I have said before, people compare this to the likes of the Bones game where you got no rules or game aids etc and purely miniatures - which had for the most part already been sculpted and had master castings etc.

In this instance you are paying for brand new miniatures.

As for the DnD board game. I have one and whilst it is really nice - it doesn't really offer a lot in terms of progression. Also, the miniatures are 'ok' but not looking as good as the current offering with this KS.

Offline Elbows

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I think it is a very reasonable value.  I don't expect this Kickstarter to be one of the extreme ones (where you seemingly get loads of free kit).  In the U.S. many of the big nice boardgames now days are around $85-90 MSRP.  So this really fits in line with the premium board game genre market here.  I would bet money eventually this core box will be available for $65-ish at discount at a normal retailer, so the Kickstarter won't be saving someone a ton of money.

However, for the value I think it's completely in line.  Honestly I could do without the KS myself but I like toys and will enjoy some of the cool peculiar sculpts.

 

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