Russian Bolshevik Sailor Uniforms

[Mark Plant]

Cuprum, what is the source of that picture?

[cuprum]

Greetings Mark.
You ask about drawing with white seamen?
It is drawing from Russian military-historical magazine "Sergeant" (Сержант), number now I do not remember. If it is necessary, I can send scanned article.

[Remington]

It's me again... Am I right that on this picture some caps have a red and some have a bronze cockade?



Could someone explain why?

[cuprum]

It is a shot from a film "Admiral Kolchak". On this shot the moment when there was a revolution of 1917 is shown. Seamen go to except the weapon at officers.
For that moment still revolutionary sailors and soldiers often continued to wear cockades though shoulder straps have already lifted. Often there was an improvisation - the imperial cockade was fitted by a red fabric. It was the short period. Soon these cockades have been completely removed from the circulation in revolutionary troops.

[Remington]

I see... So the red cockades have nothing to do with these men being guard? And it's better if I don't paint any cockades on my miniatures.

[Kingscarbine]

Рабоче-крестьянский красный флот (РККФ)
(Workers' and Peasants' Red Fleet)

1. Flag officer 1921
2. Adjutant (leutnant) 1917
3. Red commander of marine infantry 1918-1921
4. Sailor 1921

Can you upload the image please?

[daniel9ds]

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[David]

After reading through this topic?
are these the red sailors of the river fleet?

and would the river boat have this flag on the stern.

Thanks
David

[cuprum]

This photo from the film - shows men of the Imperial Navy. Until the overthrow of the Tsar.

Red sailors removed the straps and imperial cockade.
The rest of the sailors uniforms remained the same.

Imperial Russian Navy flag - blue St. Andrew's cross on a white field.
Due to the fact that after the Bolshevik revolution is no regulation on the banners were not, many of the red flags were very unusual. One of these flags is shown in this figure - this flag was captured by the Poles in 1920, along with the red river war ship. Red sailors have replaced the blue cross of the imperial fleet - in red - "proletarian" colors.

Uniforms sailors and banners of river and sea vessels are unlikely to have differences in RCW.

[skeptichaggis]

I advise the gauntlet series of booklets on the period,the tom hillman translations are great. I've got the lot on all the combatants,they are(if you find them)cheap too. The one you want here is red army of the Russian civil war 1917-1922.

[Mike Blake]

http://papercraft.mybb.ru/uploads/000a/82/08/602-2-f.jpg

Cuprum

This link no longer works - would it be possible for repeat for those of use coming to the discussion late, please?

Many thanks

[cuprum]

Link continues to work ... You have are probably a problem with the computer's security settings.

That's the theme for the uniforms of sailors on my forum. I can advise you on the correct color of the specific figures.

http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=271&block=0

[Mike Blake]

Excellent - many thanks.