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Author Topic: Re: Building a Wild West Town - One last time (update 12/09/23)  (Read 19068 times)

Offline terrement

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Does anyone have an actual map of the original Magnificent Seven town?  I've tried to piece one together from different scenes, but didn't know if anyone had an actual map

Offline has.been

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I thought someone on LAF did one a while ago.


Offline tinned fruit

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For those not on Social Media here's some photos of the individual buildings.





























Thanks for looking.

Phil

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #64 on: March 07, 2022, 11:12:08 AM »
Excellent work. They look just as good if not better up close :)
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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2022, 07:18:16 PM »
Your San Miguel buildings look really good, you've managed to get a very believable texture on the adobe with a similarly believable colour.

You mentioned earlier in the thread that you usually have lift off roofs, I can see that the trap doors might be handles to lift them out but I can't see a gap arround  the edge are these fixed roofs or lift off ones. If the later you've done a brilliant job of disguising the edge.

The structures that look like domed bread ovens, are they water wells with a door on, I've not come across this type before.
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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2022, 08:43:26 PM »
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The structures that look like domed bread ovens

Might be just that for cooking tortillas.  Common for flatbreads in the middle east.  Found pics in search for "adobe ovens" and "cob ovens" but couldn't get pics to show with the link

Thanks for the links to the map for the village., and the post has great pics from the flick.

In the pics, I think it is a corn crib that Calvera and his men are riding past - easily done with stained matchsticks cut to length.  Nearby there are many examples of what looks like vegetation tied up in pyramid shape


The grouping and location suggests that isn't where they grew.  Anyone know if that's how they dried corn on the stalk before harvesting the cobs?

Tinned Fruit - thanks for the close-ups of the individual buildings.  Great pictures.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2022, 08:51:14 PM by terrement »

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2022, 03:43:55 AM »
Those are definitely bread ovens.  When I was a docent at Sutter's Fort in Sacramento, California many years ago I worked on one of those ovens baking bread - while kids churned butter.  You can bet we were the most popular attraction in the fort when the bread came out of the oven and cooled down enough to serve.  Since the bread was 'period' it was okay but I'd choose something more palatable if I had my choice.  Indian fry bread is better - and on rare occasions you can get it fresh at Indian Grinding Rock state park an hour or so away from the fort into the foothills of the Sierra Nevada range.  Just watch out for the rattle snakes!  In the same area are several Gold Rush era towns - sometimes a little touristy but still cool little places to explore.  Not sure how much others realize California was a center of the Old West but it sure was - it, along with Oregon, were the primary destinations of most people traveling west in the early period (1840 - 1870 or so).  The famous Cow Towns came later.

Agree that the coloration of your models is right on. 

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2022, 07:48:05 AM »
Lovely builds  :)
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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2022, 05:45:19 PM »
Those are definitely bread ovens.


That's what I thought at first but they have wooden doors and I would have thought an oven with a high temperature fire inside wouldn't have a wooden door. All the clay ovens I've come across have an opening rather than wooden door.
I'm in Spain at the moment and there are still a lot of wells or Fonts in the mountains and they are all covered to a greater or lesser extent to keep rubbish out of the water which is why I asked the question.

They look good whatever they are supposed to be.

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2022, 09:52:40 PM »
Thanks for all the kind words.

I blatantly stole the idea from Nick (Malamute) and am reliably informed they are Horno ovens. I added wooden doors to keep the critters out plus I like the look - I'm not great for functionality. If t looks good to me it's in!

The roofs are removable and the roof access are for ease of taking them out. Usually I don't bother with stuff on the roof as it impedes figure placement. I just use cut down roof supports whch allow the roof to pop up if you press your finger in the right place. The roofs are custom cut from 3mm mdf after the buildng is finshed  to get a good fit and I think the angle of the photo helps deceive the eye.

Hope that helps though I doubt it does!



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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2022, 10:27:10 PM »
Thanks for the answers,  after I asked about your roofs I found some older pictures you'd posted and the join was visible but still looked good.
I've done this myself in the past but my join was pretty poor....I  must do better next time.

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2022, 01:16:38 AM »
Just a bit more on the ovens and their doors.  We burned down the fuel (wood) to charcoal and then heated the bread over the coals so the doors are their to keep the heat in once the cooking starts - so the doors are entirely functional and historical. 

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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2022, 07:13:28 AM »
I would have gone with pizza oven but given the current fad of the witless, middle-brow and middle-class is making their own sourdough, a bread oven is a sign of the times. :D

Lovely builds but if you are in any way anal about such things, they probably won’t stretch to Central America or the Caribbean. The propensity in such climes to occasionally heavy rainfall means that flat roofs aren’t the most sensible option. More pantiling required.
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3 a 0 no Liverpool
Ficou marcado na história
E no Rio não tem outro igual
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Re: Building a Wild West Town - More photos of San Miguel (update 07/03/22)
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2022, 09:01:36 AM »
Mine - all mine! Got these track and cart pieces from Ainsty Castings



 They are lovely and will be the centre piece of the mine entrance. Not looking forward to the mess that carving up this foam is going to cause.



I have got a couple of islands on order from Amera Mouldings as an alternative. I used some of these for hills a while back and was very pleased with the look. The ones below are from their "Islands and Landscapes" range though the ones I've bought are a smaller footprint.





So far I'm pleased with the project which is made from things I already had in the house apart from £5 on mdf stairs, £7.50 on the Ainsty track and £9 on the hills.

Thanks for looking.

Phil



« Last Edit: March 11, 2022, 10:12:57 AM by tinned fruit »

 

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