Welcome your comments: wierd war concepts.

[Commander Vyper]

Dear diary,

As some of you know I've been hooked on this weird war stuff,
(well obsessing really!).

Anyway, I suppose I want to get some ultra modern/parallel universe stuff in there too. I've had a few thoughts:

i) Tanhausser kinda way, (WWI never ended), Germany dabbling in the occult, world domination, technological terrors added with demonic and religious articifacts playing a part and no nazis (but nasty buggers none the less).

ii)  WWII still ranges on into an alt present day. Nuclear power never fully harnessed for some reason, (i dunno periodic table one short) but other tech advances made on both sides. (Allowing use of command and conquer style hi tech weapons, telsas, gauss guns, lasguns mechs jets etc... mixed with conventional stuff).

iii) Neo earth, (kinda in a Rogue Trooper fashion) old habits die hard, the planet is split between Tuetonic Imperialists and the Free peoples of the sovereignty, (allied forces) (borrowing a little from well everwhere here, stay with me!). Mankind left the planet in pieces and found another one to contine the worlds war on.

So hi tech sci-fi mixed with nods/references back to the good old days of WWII on the first earth before they blew it up!

I suppose I've not the disposable funds to launch into a massive figure buying fest (and my wife would kill me as I have enough lead and plastic apparently) and would like to use as much as I have and I suppose make sure its use seems workable:

so...

pigiron kolony guys; mecha greatcoat yanks
GW steel legion;  mecha greatcoat germans lt and heavy weapons teams.
I-Kore colonial shock marines; german super soldat
Kyromek striders german scout walkers
E4M powered armour troopers american powered armoured marines.

I know I want and need some westwind zombies and want to get some basic troops either SHS system WW or artizan/later WW B0B figures and do some head swops etc.

I know it's up to me totally but does what I'm thinking about sound like it could be doable?

Yours

The commander

[white knight]

Yes, it does.

Might I also recommend the Warzone trenchers? great figs IMO.

And Copplestone-Neo soviets and old GW Valhallans work really well for Russans.

[Commander Vyper]

Yes, it does.

Might I also recommend the Warzone trenchers? great figs IMO.

And Copplestone-Neo soviets and old GW Valhallans work really well for Russans.

Cheers o' fist of Khonshu , I do have the 80 plastic warzone mini pack kicking about somewhere, blood berrets are on order for a british para/commando feel the metal trenchers are just a little too static IMO and limited castings are now available.

I was looking at the copplestone soviets, interesting..... never liked the valhallans, until I did a few for a mate and added respirators, (a la cadians).

And ok which joker said back to the drawing board without quantifying their rationale!  

EDIT: If you do vote cheers, do me a favour and 'add some meat to the bones', like to hear your comments positive and negative.


The Commander

[TadPortly]

I have been thinking about weird WW II for a while.  I think I would go for a stalemate option.  Western Allies get as far as the Rhine, Eastern allies as far as the Oder maybe.  Central Germany becomes the domain of dark forces as Germany attempts to halt the Allied advances.  Possible German insurrection against the use of the dark arts (Austria, being essentially a Catholic country declaring independance from the Reich and leading this with Rome's support).  

Play it from 1944 and see where it ends up.  Nuclear technology should possible, but would the Western Allies really have sanctioned its use in the West? (a racist argument I know, but in line with 40s thinking in my opinion). Plus think of all those corpses that could be zombiefied...

[Commander Vyper]

I have been thinking about weird WW II for a while.  I think I would go for a stalemate option.  Western Allies get as far as the Rhine, Eastern allies as far as the Oder maybe.  Central Germany becomes the domain of dark forces as Germany attempts to halt the Allied advances.  Possible German insurrection against the use of the dark arts (Austria, being essentially a Catholic country declaring independance from the Reich and leading this with Rome's support).  

Play it from 1944 and see where it ends up.  Nuclear technology should possible, but would the Western Allies really have sanctioned its use in the West? (a racist argument I know, but in line with 40s thinking in my opinion). Plus think of all those corpses that could be zombiefied...

Very nice Tad Portly, idea like this alot.

My own thoughts were to keep 'shiva the destroyer of worlds' out of the equation, linked to the reasons why the German 'Empire' would head into the occult.

Unless of course the allies had it but were unwilling and unable to effectively utilise the bomb, (maybe linked to the occult practices of the Germans), the nuclear blast would generate enough raw power to open a rift in space and time that would mean a merging of the realms the material with the immaterial, chaos would ensue, this rent would be uncontrollable, (even the warlocks of the SS could not survive this hell on earth: human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together mass hysteria! ) hence a stalemate in that respect.

This wouldn't stop other technologies being developed, the fall of Japan could still occur, the absorption of Japanese technological advances matching the germans occult advances move for move.

Yummy!!!

More I hunger for more!!!!

[Commander Vyper]

I have been thinking about weird WW II for a while.  I think I would go for a stalemate option.  Western Allies get as far as the Rhine, Eastern allies as far as the Oder maybe.  Central Germany becomes the domain of dark forces as Germany attempts to halt the Allied advances.  (a racist argument I know,

I could then include my ideas around that Gorehound nazi zombie film:

In the latter stages of the occult wars Himmler ordered the development of the V3 Ballongrausigkeiten ultimate sanction.

Where the V1 and V2 programmes delivered instant shock and terror. The V3 gyroscopically controlled Ballongrausigkeiten would be dropped over allied controlled territories to drift on the wind, pressure valves automatically begin to release the helium from the balloons at 2000 feet, slowing the descent and bringing their deadly cargo of undeath to the ground safely, a slowing drifting tide of infection and disease...swelling their ranks with the newly infected.

Alternatively, ground launching sites have been spotted, mobile holding pens and launch facilities, moved into areas of contested control, launched from the ground into dense urban areas, this is almost akin razing the ground, instead of ash and flame slash and burn, death and stench.... a literal no man's land..... an ultimate sanction.

[Lowtardog]

Rogue Trooper for me, it was always my favourite 2000AD strip. More along modern lines of Blue and Grey but it does open the door for all possiblities.

I once played a game on PS2 called WW3 which was a play on extending WW1, it having never ended and it would suit your Colony and Warzone stuff, but I think more mordern figures would ably fit in with each district/country having their own technologies or basing them on your favourite period of history without too much trouble

e.g.
Germans - either WW2 or ww1 uniforms
Brits - either colonial or WW1 for my taste
French - Napoleonic  style
Russians - Imperial or Soviet
US - I ould go rough riders or advance technology

the worlds your oyster

[Mainly28s]

I have been thinking about weird WW II for a while.  I think I would go for a stalemate option.  Western Allies get as far as the Rhine, Eastern allies as far as the Oder maybe.  Central Germany becomes the domain of dark forces as Germany attempts to halt the Allied advances.  Possible German insurrection against the use of the dark arts (Austria, being essentially a Catholic country declaring independance from the Reich and leading this with Rome's support).  

Play it from 1944 and see where it ends up.  Nuclear technology should possible, but would the Western Allies really have sanctioned its use in the West? (a racist argument I know, but in line with 40s thinking in my opinion). Plus think of all those corpses that could be zombiefied...

I think TadPortly's got it about right. Prolly the biggest difference from many "other" Weird War ideas, though, would be the absolute, utter and total lack of walkers- NONE WHATSOEVER... I just can't get the concept to fit.
I'd just go with adding many of the paper Panzers- the E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75 and E-100, variants of the Hetzer chassis and so on.

[white knight]

You should really have included "Colonel Marbles is a tosser" or are you now denying your origins?  :wink:

[Commander Vyper]

You should really have included "Colonel Marbles is a tosser" or are you now denying your origins?  :wink:

must.......resist................too.........................strong...................

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

COLONEL MARBLES IS A TOSSER!

There I said it!!!!  :twisted:

The Commander

[TadPortly]

I think TadPortly's got it about right. Prolly the biggest difference from many "other" Weird War ideas, though, would be the absolute, utter and total lack of walkers- NONE WHATSOEVER... I just can't get the concept to fit.
I'd just go with adding many of the paper Panzers- the E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75 and E-100, variants of the Hetzer chassis and so on.

Totally agree - I really can't match walkers with 40s technology.  However, as a thought you could have Golems. No reason why they couldn't be metalic rather than made of clay.  However, being of Jewish origin I would suggest Allied use rather than Nazi.  But then again could the dark forces bind demons in a similar way?

[Commander Vyper]

I think TadPortly's got it about right. Prolly the biggest difference from many "other" Weird War ideas, though, would be the absolute, utter and total lack of walkers- NONE WHATSOEVER... I just can't get the concept to fit.
I'd just go with adding many of the paper Panzers- the E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75 and E-100, variants of the Hetzer chassis and so on.

Totally agree - I really can't match walkers with 40s technology.  However, as a thought you could have Golems. No reason why they couldn't be metalic rather than made of clay.  However, being of Jewish origin I would suggest Allied use rather than Nazi.  But then again could the dark forces bind demons in a similar way?

I like the idea of walkers myself, from mechs through to AT-ST based stuff, I think quite naturally suspension of disbelief has to play a massive part in it too, (well you can have possessed SS officers and zombies but no to walkers! ) This is all good stuff though keep it coming.

Also....Warmachine Cryx scrap thralls will be used as the basis for Projekt X style genetically engineered abominations.

[pixelgeek]

Which option ii) entry is actually option iii)?

[Commander Vyper]

Which option ii) entry is actually option iii)?

counting down the numbers 1 2 erm 2!   you know what I mean.

Trust you eh! .

The Commander

[The Somnambulist]

I prefer a more subtle take on the whole Weird War II thing, there would be powered armour suits (in the experimental stage), the search for ancient artifacts,V2 rockets and experimental aircraft and the resurgence of some European myths and legends. I've got some ideas I've just got to put them into practice!