GW Announces 145 new Citadel Paints

[Galland]

How original. They really are at the forefront of paint system solutions. Or so they'd like pre-adolcents, young teens and clueless parents to think.  

Snarky comments aside I think it is a good thing they expand their paint range. Citadel paints are often available in toy stores if you need something in a hurry.

I am neither of those things, yet, I do belive that they are pushing the hobby forward, and yes, I do belive that they are actually making progress in the world of paint systems. Especially for the people that perhaps not are the best painters in the world, like my self, that most certianly could use the help of paint systems.
I for one are looking forward to test the new paints and whatnots that they have released.

[myincubliss]

...I for one are looking forward to test the new paints and whatnots that they have released.

me too, although it's mostly the excessive postage that has stopped me investing in the foundy triads...

[Hawkeye]

Does that mean that they're getting rid of the Washes? If so, I want to lay in a supply of them, as there are four that I use all the time - Gryphon Sepia, Devlan Mud, Badab Black, and Ogryn Flesh. It would be a shame to see them disappear!

[myincubliss]

There's twelve 'shades' - presumably Reikland Fleshshade is the equivalent of Ogryn flesh, Seraphim Sepia replaces Gryphon Sepia etc - unfprtunately the didn't have the whole range instore today, I only saw the green and blue, but they performed similarly to the current green and blue (although admittedly I use them less than the browns, so my experience isn't that deep with those particular hues...)

[Za Zjurman]

They have a list on their website comparing the old paints with the new ones. They caal it the Conversion chart. I hope their "new" Devlan Mud and Badab Black is as good as the new ones or else I have to hoard.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart

[Ray Rivers]

There's new pots on some of the paints:

I buy few paints from GW nowadays. The soft plastic pot lid doesn't stand up and sags down so as to be unusable.

Will these new pots be any better?

[myincubliss]

There's a triangular plastic bit (just visible in the pic) that holds the lid open at a 90 degree angle, which would prevent the usual sag issues (although it's only on the new pots, not on the base and layer pots)

[Hammers]

Games Workshop is launching a staggering new Citadel Paint range, and it's nothing short of a painting revolution. We've developed an incredible system of painting that will enable hobbyists of all levels to achieve fantastic results very easily. There are 145 new Citadel Paints for you to choose from, each one specially designed for a particular painting task, from basecoating your models, to shading, adding highlights, to covering your bases, and more besides! There are even new paint sets, which are ideal for any beginner, and Citadel Palettes to help keep your paint in the right place.

If there is a painting revolution, GW is pretty late in joining it:

I'll leave the pot type pros and cons aside (I am a drop bottle man myself) but...

High pigmentation is standard with all major model paint companies.

-Vallejo has over 300 high basic paints and about 150 specialized paints like textured, airbrush, primers, washes, dry pigments.

-Foundry has 266 paints in their catalog and has been doing triads/palettes for years.

-Reaper Master Series Paint, my personal favorite, have 216 basic paints in their range and have been doing triads/pallets for at least five years.

-Tamiya may not have as wide a range as the others but they are constantly providing the hobby market with dry pigments, crayons, markers, texture paint etc.

There is two areas (beside shameless marketing) where GW has an edge over the others, which, whatever they like you to believe, doesn't have to do with the paints. The first is Citadel paint availability and the second is a permanent painting staff which provides good tutorials.

[Galland]

Okay.

[Hawkeye]

Thanks, Myincubliss - that clears things up a bit. Phew! That said, I'll probably pick up a few each of the four washes that I use all the time, just for peace of mind.

[Wirelizard]

So the formerly insanely-limited Citadel paint range now has... about 2/3rds the range of the Reaper Master Series paints I prefer, and are still more expensive... yay?

That said, I have become a fan of their washes, so as someone said upthread, their Devlan Mud, sepia and other washes are hopefully basically unchanged despite new silly names to replace the old silly names.

Must admit I'm still irritated GW ditched their inks a few years ago, their red ink was the best, reddest ink I'd ever found. Most artists inks are too orange for me, as is Reaper's red. GW had an actual, proper red ink, it was great... and then they binned it. Meh.

[janner]

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The key is that you CAN change to it, but you do not NEED to.

It has taken GW 3 years working on these to get them to a point they are happy with them. They have been tested in labs with lasers to get the correct density. The coverage should apply across the whole range too. Very professional, very good and I think the best release of this year so far in the Wargames world for me at least.  

Just teasing matey, but the forth is strong in this one 

[Smillie]

As GW usually balls something up whenever they change anything, and (as cynical as it sounds) they tend to only ever make things crapper so that they can make them cheaper and charge us more I will be stocking up on the current inks/shades what ever the hell there calling them these days to avoid having to get used to using what ever the "new" stuff will be like in the future. Hobby craft hear I come!

[FramFramson]

I WOULD like to hear a comparison between the new inks and old inks. Gryphonne Sepia, Devlan Mad, etc.

To be honest though, I think they'll be fine. It's a lot easier to just keep an existing formulation and slap a new label on it than it is to re-formulate 70+ existing paints, so inertia actually works in our favour.

Doesn't mean that's guaranteed, but I see no reason not to take the "we haven't changed the formulation" claim at face value yet. 

[syrinx0]

It probably depends on if they changed the manufacturer of their paint.  If it's a new company everything probably will change.  I like a lot of their paints and washes but I got tired of their horrible bottles and my paint drying out and switched to Foundry. Reaper is on my list to try probably before I buy more GW.