GW Announces 145 new Citadel Paints

[Captain Blood]

Are they keeping blood red, bleached bone, snakebite leather, shining gold and bestial brown? These are the only 5 GW colours i use - but i use them a lot!

[FramFramson]

Everything out the window. It might as well be an entirely new line - you may find some new colours which are quite close (and hopefully close enough for your purposes), but nothing identical.

[Ray Rivers]

I'm starting to hyper-ventilate again...  

 

[FramFramson]

Wow... there isn't even any Mud on ebay (I went to peek out of curiosity). Maybe I should've bought those other pots and re-sold them!

[Aaron]

It is worth noting that the Vallejo Game Color line is a pretty close match for the GW line. No washes or foundation paints and I have found some a bit thin but the colors are quite close.

[FramFramson]

FYI folks, there's a review that claims Army Painter inks are a 1:1 match for the old GW washes. 

Specifically the Strong Tone Ink is supposed to match for Devlan Mud, the Light Tone Ink is supposed to match Gryphonne Sepia, and the Dark Tone Ink is supposed to match Badab Black.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

[Steve F]

Specifically the Strong Tone Ink is supposed to match for Devlan Mud, the Light Tone Ink is supposed to match Gryphonne Sepia, and the Dark Tone Ink is supposed to match Badab Black.

Actually, Fram, I think that he only says that Strong Tone matches Devlan Mud.  He then says that IF the others match, he needn't buy GW washes again.

I made the same mistake as you the first time I skimmed it.

[FramFramson]

True. But also people's perceptions are also somewhat subjective, so by asking I'm hoping to get more data points than "one guy on the internet says...". 

[Dr Mathias]

Don't flip out too much guys, I acquired several of the new paints over the weekend and have been happy so far. I picked up the replacements for Devlan Mud and Ogryn Flesh, and some of the browns, and the new ones work just fine. I'm not sure if it's been posted but here is a conversion chart:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat730002a&categoryId=6800002a&section=&aId=21600002a&_requestid=1194613

Personally I think it was unwise of them not to keep the old names for very close matches (mainly because I don't want to have to do homework to buy paint) but my fears have been put to rest. Obviously I can't speak for all the new paints, so some of the new ones may not be a close equivalent.

If it makes you feel any better, I'm mixing old and new washes on my half-finished Round 7 LPL entry and I can't tell the difference.

[Steve F]

Thanks, Dr M - a useful link.

[Za Zjurman]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm mixing old and new washes on my half-finished Round 7 LPL entry and I can't tell the difference.

thanx that does make me feel beter... I started to freek out...

[Anatoli]

I found what we all have been looking for to end the speculation about the new range.
It looks as if GW screwed themselves big time with the new change of names, formula and actual reduction of colors in their basic range. What's worse is that the new "foundation" paints don't match the old formula...

I love the  "thinned down paint because our customers are too stupid to do it themselves"  being the reason of GW releasing that crappy "layering" paint

http://independent-painters.blogspot.se/2012/04/new-citadel-paint-range-review.html?showComment=1333994603141#c5858782537914091241

The guys also posted his review directly on YouTube



As for Vallejos washes, sadly they are not even close to the GW washes imo.

[Dr Mathias]

Interesting video, I'm back to being unhappy now

I'll let you guys know how I feel about the reds when I get to them, that's the kicker right there.

[YPU]

wow, I was looking into all this for a while and I am coming to the conclusion I cant be bothered to be upset about it. I'll go into a store and buy whatever paint colours strikes my fancy at the time, I simply cant get worked up about exact matches or the like. How zen.

I am currently mainly wondering why they changed paint supplier but I guess the answer is a boring financial related one.

[Captain Blood]

The paint chart recommended closest matches to Snakebite Leather and Bestial Brown don't look remotely like them... 
Two of my favourite staple colours. What a pisser.
About the only thing i actually buy from bloody Games Workshop, and now they've gone and screwed it...

I think i shall have to become a GW-hater like everyone else now