(KICKSTARTER) Prodos Games Aliens/Predators: Recent developments pp.35ff

[NurgleHH]

Got the same thing today. Apart from Wave 3 items (alternate heads), all I pledged for will ship.

Lucky Ones, but I won't spent more Money. It is not fair to "feed" only customers who pay more. The rest is still waiting. Got nothing until now, no replies to mails.

[Suber]

I didn't get even that, my pledge status is still awaiting.

[Mako]

I'm afraid I have to agree with the negative sentiments here as well, which is a shame.

A pity they've treated some people so badly.

I won't buy any of their stuff either, due to the way they've treated others, even through direct sales, if those are ever offered. 

A terrible shame, since it didn't have to turn out this way.

[Mr. Peabody]

... even through direct sales, if those are ever offered. 

The AVP base game boxes are in at least one shop out here.

[Arcturus]

You won't believe it but I really got a UPS tracking No.! 10.6 kg of AVP goodness finally on its way to me. Delivery scheduled for next tuesday. I will be able to check it out on the following weekend.

Okay after that first delivery i will be much more comfortable as this is about 75% of my total pledge. I'm happy i grabbed this last straw and finally willl receive something. I mean the minis are not responsible for the scammers producing them. I just hope the quality of the minis is good and not just an assortment of miscasts from the last production run.

Never again Prodos still stands but finally they deliver something.

[Sgt. Scream]

I see it the same way. I am happy to get most of my stuff finally after all the hassle and the long wait and that's really all I care about. Two years of whining didn't get anyone anything. Yes, that's a shame. I just want this adventure to be over and appearantly those additional 10 bucks will achieve that.

[rwwin]

So I tried to ask this in a separate poll to get anonymous stats, but got shot down by Chris.  So no sarcasm or complaints, just a flat out question:  If you're still waiting for your rewards, are you going to take Prodos up on their "offer" to ship with a purchase from their online store or are you going to wait it out?

I'm split.  I'm tired, I just want my stuff.  Sitting on a high horse is fine when there's nothing you can do, but honestly, $22 (15 GBP) is a small price to finally put this behind me.

[Verderer]

No I havent paid anything extra, and I really don't see why I should. It's plain extortion to ask for more. They really should have asked more for shipping originally, I could have told them that 10 quids wasnt' enough to ship the game box +...

They do claim in the latest message that they've shipped 41 parcels to people who didn't take the 'offer' (in addition to 150ish who did), so if that is true, I see no reason to dish out more money? If they're sincere about shipping everybody's rewards, then I can wait. Reminds to be seen if they are though... It's hard to earn one's trust back, once you've lost it. And they keep giving these conflicting messages which do nothing to earn it back. That plus their constant lack of response to any of my messages is pissing me of. bad management there.

[Verderer]

By the way, does anyone remember how many pledges were there made when the KS ended?

[Overlord]

By the way, does anyone remember how many pledges were there made when the KS ended?

2094

This is the AvP KS page from the day after funding on 30 Nov 2013:
https://web.archive.org/web/20131130145155/http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/alien-vs-predator-the-miniatures-game

Latest Prodossers waffle:

Prodos Games Ltd says:

###Transmission starts###
Good morning all,
First off all, we, at Prodos, would like to say thank you for support over the last week. We have been working around the clock and have pulled family members and friends in to meet the deadline i set last week as part of the expedited shipping offer.
We are delighted to say that over the course of the week(between 9th and 13th of May)., a total of 215 backers participated in the offer. From that we have shipped 155 parcels out. Orders placed on Thursday and Friday are currently sitting in our warehouse floor to be shipped out Mondy and Tuesday morning so we are still on schedule to get these shipped out within the 5 day timeframe we set ourselves.
Additionally 41 parcels where sent out to backers that have not taken the part in the deal. This means that we had a total of 196 parcels leave our offices over the last week with another 60 being shipped out between Monday and Tuesday.
Each of you should receive a tracking number, one from us, followed by another one from the courier company in your country. USA/Canadian and Australian parcels are shipped by Poczta Polska and then transferred to your local courier company as per the previous update.
Shipping cost explained.
Based on feedback received ,we would like to explain the issue with the shipping costs a bit. AvP kickstarter ran in 2013 and at that time KS had no means to update shipping costs therefore we had to put in a flat rate. Basedon our calculations, at the time, for we estimated that the game would weigh in at a not inconsiderable, 2.3 kg in weight. The 10GBP we estimated wasn’t enough to cover that on it’s own but at the time we accepted that the cost of shipping would need to be subsidised from profits to a small degree. However as you know, the game ended up weighting in at a monstrous 4kg in weight (you who have carried these boxes any distance can attest to the weight) due to quality concerns in relation to the thinner box and components that time.
As you can see on attached screenshot, to ship a parcel to USA for example, using the cheapest track solution, costs 280 PLN which equates to roughly 71 USD, and this doubles for Australia.I know some of you won’t care in relation to this but we’re being as transparent as possible and taking on board your criticism and feedback.
With this in mind, we’re aware that some people have expressed annoyance at the THB page and we’re now looking to sort this out. We have decided to close down the current THB facebook page as of on the 29th May, and create 2 others. One for Kickstarter backers only,which will be used for KS updates and to give us feedback, and a second page for the community as a whole to discuss the game, rules, scenarios etc.
See here a link to the KS backers group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/1002238266528833/ This group is closed to the public, so if you’re looking to access it, i would ask that you use your real first and surname on FB for verification.
Separately, here is the link to new group, where you can share anything else AvP related. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027030660685651/
Finally, for those of you who have not yet taken advantage of the expedited shipping to get your KS pledge up to and including the wave 2 releases, this offer remains open. To you who have purchased from our online store, we look forward to seeing these miniatures on the facebook pages soon.
####Transmission ends.#####

Is anyone able to access the "new" Facebook pages?  Anything of particular note/laughable lies? I don't do FB and can't view either.  Prodos following their usual pattern of hiding removing anything they don't like, with the "new" pages.

So they shipped 196 parcels out of 2094 backers in a single week. Remarkable progress 2 1/2 years after the KS closed   
Just goes to prove what you can do when people donate you even more money! I assume all the outstanding pledges will be shipped just as promptly........

FYI, this is from the original KS FAQ:

Why £10 postage?

Postage is expensive £10 will in the main only cover a small part of the shipping costs. In the US we have partnered with CMON, but we still have to pay their shipping costs as well as the cost of shipping to the US and the import duty.

So they knew from the start they were underfunding the postage. 

SSDD

[Cherno]

It baffles me why they didn't do it like many others and just say "shipping charges may change and depend on the total weight of your goods, so we will calculate it when the  packages are ready to ship". This would have avoided all this debacle and there wouldn't be that many angry and disappointed customers waiting for their packages years after the thing is in stores.

[CptJake]

I have not paid more and will not pay them another cent.

I think if you are one of the folks who has nothing yet, it may be worth doing.  That gets counterbalanced by if you have stuff not 'approved' yet in your order, you'll pay now and then probably be asked to shell out more when the final 'Wave 3' (or 4 or 5 or whatever they end up with) stuff is approved.

I refuse to reward Jarek and company's dishonesty by purchasing another thing from them, or purchase stuff from other companies using Prodos if I know Prodos is involved.   Rewarding poor behavior encourages poor behavior.  

It is an individual decision.  I know there are some backers with hefty pledges who have not gotten anything.   Jarek's offer would be tempting for a backer in that position.    

[CptJake]

It baffles me why they didn't do it like many others and just say "shipping charges may change and depend on the total weight of your goods, so we will calculate it when the  packages are ready to ship". This would have avoided all this debacle and there wouldn't be that many angry and disappointed customers waiting for their packages years after the thing is in stores.

A couple of reasons I can think of.   It would have discouraged some of the bigger pledges/pledgers.   Additionally, that is a relatively new practice on KS, when this was going on most companies included postage in the pledge.

[harleyface]

Since i received the shipping message from prodos nothing happened.as far as i know most received a message from a transport firm shortly after.still waiting.
Havent paid more and never will
Think it was coincidence i received right now the mail.
Still thinking about getting rid as fast as i can of avp
First i have to hold it in my hands...maybe it gets lost....
Nothing would surprise me.....

[Arcturus]

Prodos delivered finally most of my pledge.





All seems to be well casted and complete.