[Kickstarter] Mantic Dwarf Kings Quest. ALL DONE.$1.05 million final.

[Braxandur]

I's indeed also say that I'm starting to get more impressed all the time with this kickstarter. Except for the resin miniatures, that is, I don't really care about those, I still have anough 3 stage heroes lying around

Mantic so far has been quite generous with it's kickstarters. I got much more kings of war models than expected, they just added more freebies whe they started to send out the later waves, which was a big surprise. When the Dreadball Xtreme kickstarter slowed down and even seemd to fall back a bit, they threw in more stuff got it back onto track with a prety neat finish in the end, with the option of more stretch goals opening up via the pledge manager.

I wouldn't be surprised if another complete expansion get unlocked after the 48h reminders get send around.

[A_Train]

Hi all, I haven't been around in a while, and haven't had a chance to read through the 17 pages here.  But are we looking at Bone's quality soft plastic here?  Or harder stuff?
I see they say it is similar to Mars Attacks or Gears of War, but I haven't handled either of those.

Thanks

[robh]

Much harder stuff. Same plastic as the Mars Attacks figures if you have seen those yet, otherwise like the Gears of War minis.

[Elbows]

Hi all, I haven't been around in a while, and haven't had a chance to read through the 17 pages here.  But are we looking at Bone's quality soft plastic here?  Or harder stuff?
I see they say it is similar to Mars Attacks or Gears of War, but I haven't handled either of those.

Thanks

Robh, read man!  READ!    I don't have them either though, so I can't speak to the plastics...

[nic-e]

Robh, read man!  READ!    I don't have them either though, so I can't speak to the plastics...

Zombicide style.

[beefcake]

Is that at all like Reaper Bones?

[Braxandur]

The zombice plastics hold detail much better than the Reaper bones. They are still somewhat bendy and removing mould lines is a pain in the *ss. Fot the rest, the zombicide material is great!

[Malebolgia]

...apart from the fact the painted miniatures glossed back after a year
Keeps me from painting more of them. Why bother?

But it's weird you can find so little information on the plastic. i'm still on the fence on joining for some add-ons, but the lack of good info on the plastic still stops me from backing.

[Braxandur]

...apart from the fact the painted miniatures glossed back after a year

That's weird... Wonder what makes that happen; could be the plasticisers coming out of the plastic into the paint and varnish layers, whis can be sensitive to that, depending on your choice of paint and varnish.

I had made one mistake with my first few models, which was not washing them and only using a matt varnish in the end. With no good varnish in between the layers, the plasticisers came out and made the matt varnish sticky for more than a month. Interestingly some models were more sticky than others. I'm not sure if the brand of paint uses has influence on that as well or not. I took more care with my 2nd batch and had no problems.

[robh]

Robh, read man!  READ!    I don't have them either though, so I can't speak to the plastics...

Referee!!
I call foul on that, editing his post to make me look daft

**edit**
Actually I am a bit pissed about that, not about looking daft (used to that) but he didn't even have the courtesy to thank me for the help I tried to give him before including my answer in his original post.

[Too Bo Coo]

I've painted up 95% of the Zombicie S1 stuff, never had any problems with them.  I painted the zeds with Army Painter wash, worked great, and the characters in a normal style.  But I did give everything a good wash first.  Still undecided about the material.  Cleaning up the trim was as others noted, an absolute nightmare.  After that I found the sculpts to have style, while at the same time not bogged down painting tons of little details.

If this is the stuff they use for this game, then I'd be happy to work with it again.  I dont think it's the same stuff as the McVey game, Sedition Wars,

[fred]

I've pledged for DS - with both expansions, the Abyssal one is filling out nicely.

I think the plastic is the same as the Loka pieces - which is a nice hard plastic - I haven't painted the 1 figure I've got.

I'm not really interested in the resin figures - I'm after good looking gaming pieces not display stuff.

[A_Train]

Referee!!
I call foul on that, editing his post to make me look daft

**edit**
Actually I am a bit pissed about that, not about looking daft (used to that) but he didn't even have the courtesy to thank me for the help I tried to give him before including my answer in his original post.

I'm very sorry, it was not my intent.
What happened was, I made the original post which lacked the info about Mars Attack or Gears of War.  After posting, I went back to the Kickstarter page to make sure the info I required wasn't blatantly posted.  I saw the line I quoted and thought I could make the edit before anyone responded.   Clearly I was wrong but I do promise it was not my intent to make a respected member look foolish.   I'm sorry for that.  And I appreciate your effort to inform me on the materials.

[Quirkworthy]

AFAIK the material will be the same as the Mars Attacks models as that's the best they've had so far. That's less helpful for you guys who haven't got any of them.

In short, it's an improvement over the previous batches of material used for DB and DZ as Mantic are learning as they go along. This tech is still pretty new and the material family has a bewildering array of possible end qualities. The closest I can think of in stuff that you may have handled is probably the Gears of War plastics. It's slightly bendy (so thin blades etc survive better), holds fine detail well, can be reposed with heat and set with cold, takes paint fine. The amount of flashing is not really dependant on the material, more how it's made and how long the miniatures are cycled for. The Mars Attacks production models I've seen had no flash and a minimal mould line. I didn't try cleaning one myself, but I did ask and the guys that had done so said it was fine. Easier than previous batches.

Hope that helps.

[Malebolgia]

thanks a lot! Excellent info! Will pledge for some nice addons now