Nevyens Greek, Romans and anything else Ancient Painting Blog

[nikephorous]

Nice work!

I see you are using a different frontage for the Romans. Are you using Hail Caesar or some other rules where such things are not so important?

[Nevyen]

I am using a scaled version of HC-  the group I game with scaled down frontages as we only play multiplayer games.... actually have not done a head to head in years. so to fit more players and commands in we scale it down.

therefore- standard size is 120mm and small is 80mm - depth wise that is left up to the individual I move between 60mm for 2 ranks and 80mm for 3 ranks.

Hope that help

[nikephorous]

I am using a scaled version of HC-  the group I game with scaled down frontages as we only play multiplayer games.... actually have not done a head to head in years. so to fit more players and commands in we scale it down.

therefore- standard size is 120mm and small is 80mm - depth wise that is left up to the individual I move between 60mm for 2 ranks and 80mm for 3 ranks.

Hope that help

It does. Redefining a standard unit (and restricting the silly and extremely frequent triple moves) makes the game far more playable. After all we don't all have 40000 figures and a games table 16' x 10' which seems the size that the game was designed for.

We have been using Impetus units and calling them "standard" - works a treat.

[Nevyen]

Yes mate totally are but when i see Simon Millers efforts it makes me want to one day get that point where we have a few thousand models on the table.

[von Lucky]

For those that didn't know who Simon Millers was (including me):
http://bigredbat.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/raphia-and-other-battles.html

Edit!
Or the fact he's already posted the above on here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=89785.0

[Nevyen]

Thanks Von Lucky

[von Lucky]

I'm only posting it to let you know you don't have time for idle chit chat. Back to work [whip crack]!

[Nevyen]

Noted !   

[bigredbat]

I don't always play with 1600 or so minis.  ;-)   If you ever pop round to the BigRedBatCave for a game the most you'd encounter would be 5-600.  My rules are designed to work on a 6x4 table with 12cm elements, as well as with the mega battles; most armies at this scale only have 100-200 minis.

That said, I am givng serious thought towards rebasing my Polybians as opponents for the recent pikes.  I'm thinking of basing 7-8 hastati along with 3-4 velites together on the same 10cm wide, 8cm deep base. The velites would be in front and to the right of the hastati. 10 such units would form the front line of the legion, representing maniples. Behind them would be principes (with some velites), each on the right of a similar sized base so as to cover the gaps in the front line. Units of 8 triarii would be on a much shallower base to the rear, formed in a single rank.

Essentially the hastati and associated velites would act as a single unit with both javelin and melee capability, as would the principes/velites. There would be a "line command" rule permitting all of the hastati or all of the principes to fall back to the rear of the legion.

A legion on this scale would be around 250 minis, and a consular army 1K, so this definitely wouldn't be one for home!

Best, Simon

[Nevyen]

I think that approach is a very good one mate, and I look forward to see the result !

[bigredbat]

Thanks- I'm going to order the required bases for them, and we shall see how they look!

[Cecil Gaybody]

Dear Boy,
Very nice .
I always wondered if there were any rules that made phalanx combat exciting , gave it a new angle than just a slug fest ?

Keep it up
Cecil

[bigredbat]

Nevs, do you get Slingshot?  Cracking article in there suggesting that the chequerboard deployment of the Polybian legion is a mistranslation.  My own basing plans of last week are now on hold....

[Nevyen]

Oh ok - I don't and will now get it - latest issue?



Read and well that does put a spin on things, I think from a gaming point of view it actually makes sense, and to be honest I have had a tough time thinking through how the assumed line relief would work practically. 

Hope it gets some traction academically.

[Corso]

Great work mate

I've been toying with the idea of using shield aprons for some hoplites - seeing your cool stuff I've decided to use them......