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Offline Beast of Bukhara

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Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« on: November 16, 2016, 12:23:08 AM »
Does anyone have any information about the use of armoured trains during the Second battle Gaza 1917  please ???
According to the inter web No 1 armoured train operated along the railway  ??? Pictures of this would be very welcome  :? All I keep getting is Battlefield 1 armoured train

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Re: Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2016, 11:28:50 PM »
Not actually got anything by name .However the armoured train in the first picture is in the right place at the right time,just don't know which side.(although it is very similar in design to the late boer war armoured trains((which it's not because it's sequential in a collection of ww1 photographs not a random Google image. ))
Which would suggest it's British as it would be in both living and service memory.
The Indian army gun crew is from Basra no idea if it's a 'train'part or local expediencey.
There's also a Turkish armoured train ( armoured section is one of the suspects in my musings from previous conversations ;))
There's. A Turkish police station ,and a Sinai block house etc just for some flavour.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 11:40:19 PM by tin shed gamer »

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Re: Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 11:32:37 PM »
Plus a few more.
I think the map explains why it's so difficult to pin down ,Before the British start to re gauge the network .No doubt Michi or another train guru can clarify ,as its too many wheels for me to have anything more knowledgeable to add   :D
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 11:47:25 PM by tin shed gamer »

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Re: Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2016, 10:37:02 PM »
Mark
THanks for the reply and the pictures The armoured car is fascinating
I have some information on the railway to follow up on and when I get a bit further I report in
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Re: Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2016, 10:56:28 PM »
Plus a few more.
I think the map explains why it's so difficult to pin down ,Before the British start to re gauge the network .No doubt Michi or another train guru can clarify ,as its too many wheels for me to have anything more knowledgeable to add   :D

I found this:
Three armoured trains were in use - all hauled by petrol powered Manning Wardle engines. Steam engines used to be built by Stephenson (England), Baldwin (USA) and Franco-Belge.
Palestine Railways after 1920 (in German, but many links): http://enhancedwiki.altervista.org/de.php?title=Palestine_Railways
Four different gauges - your photos obviously show at least standard gauge and 600mm:  (600 mm, 762 mm, 1050 mm, 1435 mm)

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Re: Sinai Miltary Railway Armoured train
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 09:24:01 AM »
Apparently a number of Manning Wardle engines were  used on the railways One with a platform mount for a Vickers MG

 

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