Confessions of a terrain board virgin

[Silent Invader]

Jeff, I'd highly recommend the Winsor and Newton inks for the washes (diluted as said above). I use the Peat wash quite a lot. Looking good!

Steve not sure if you know this or if it really matters but the W&N dark peat ink isn't light fast.
Just in case it's worth bearing in mind:

http://www.winsornewton.com/uk/discover/tips-and-techniques/inks/understanding-the-quality-of-inks

 

[Jeff965]

Jeff, I'd highly recommend the Winsor and Newton inks for the washes (diluted as said above). I use the Peat wash quite a lot. Looking good!

Hmmm I was thinking of using the darkest colour on the board that's visible (so that will be the Autumn bark) and washing like Richard explained earlier in the thread.
Any thoughts anyone?

[Captain Blood]

Possibly go a shade darker than your base colour for the thin wash, Jeff. That will give added definition to your surface texture. Theoretically! 

[Jeff965]

Thanks Jeff that was a really useful and comprehensive reply, appreciate you taking the time.
I see why you liked Jim's board, very nicely done but not over done.

Will you flock with static grass and do you have the electric thingy?

Thanks again

My pleasure sir, I'm sort of doing this as I go along so I haven't given flocking much thought. Initally, bearing in mind I want the board colour to show through the flock I was thinking of applying the flock through a food strainer dry. And then mixing up pva and water in a squirty bottle and spraying over the flock sealing it in if you like.
I'm only using 2mm flock so I don't think getting each individual strand to stand up comes into it.
As far as using anything electrical is concerned, I hardly trust myself with a 2" paintbrush.
So I don't think I better go anywhere near electricity and water .

[Jeff965]

Possibly go a shade darker than your base colour for the thin wash, Jeff. That will give added definition to your surface texture. Theoretically! 

Thanks Richard, I could add a little of the dark colour of the gloop to the Autumn bark and see where I go from there. But before I do that I'm thinking I should get the other boards done to the current stage so I can wash them all together.

[OSHIROmodels]

I would suggest for the flock that you pva first, apply the flock and then go over it (once dry) with a hoover and a cut off tight in the end. It helps to remove the excess and limits the wastage. If you do it while the glue is still a bit wet some of the strands will stand up.

cheers

James

[Jeff965]

I would suggest for the flock that you pva first, apply the flock and then go over it (once dry) with a hoover and a cut off tight in the end. It helps to remove the excess and limits the wastage. If you do it while the glue is still a bit wet some of the strands will stand up.

cheers

James

Ok James, how would you apply the flock? And your message makes no sense after the word Hoover, what's a cut off tight in the end?
Have you been sniffing the pva again, or maybe it's me

[OSHIROmodels]

A pair of tights with the end cut off, stuck in the noodle of the hoover to stop the flock getting sucked into oblivion 

I'd just grab a handful of the flock and dab it in place, leaving a little bit behind with every dab.

cheers

James

[Silent Invader]

A pair of tights with the end cut off, stuck in the noodle of the hoover to stop the flock getting sucked into oblivion  

I'd just grab a handful of the flock and dab it in place, leaving a little bit behind with every dab.

cheers

James

What denier would you recommend James?  

Edit: I have a disturbing image of a very, very long pair of tights with massive feet sections.

[Charlie_]

I'd say there is nothing wrong with just painting on the PVA and sprinkling / dumping the flock on by hand. Just make sure when you shake all the excess off (there will be A LOT) you can catch it (onto a piece of corrugated card, which can then be easily folded to funnel it back the tub it came form) so you don't waste any.

Thin your PVA down, so it's the consistency of milk. Will hold it fine and dry way quicker than undiluted.

And before you seal it all with the PVA spray, get a stiff brush and hit it hard in areas where you want to wear it away to show the texture beneath.

And you can always go back and put a second layer on in areas where you want thicker grass.

[Jeff965]

A pair of tights with the end cut off, stuck in the noodle of the hoover to stop the flock getting sucked into oblivion 

I'd just grab a handful of the flock and dab it in place, leaving a little bit behind with every dab.

cheers

James

Ahh right, that makes perfect sense now thank you. Though if Paul or Dirk read this I can see the whole thread plummeting to depths unheard of because of the mention of ladies under crackers .

What denier would you recommend James? 

Edit: I have a disturbing image of a very, very long pair of tights with massive feet sections.

See what I mean,though I didn't expect this from you Steve 

I'd say there is nothing wrong with just painting on the PVA and sprinkling / dumping the flock on by hand. Just make sure when you shake all the excess off (there will be A LOT) you can catch it (onto a piece of corrugated card, which can then be easily folded to funnel it back the tub it came form) so you don't waste any.

Thin your PVA down, so it's the consistency of milk. Will hold it fine and dry way quicker than undiluted.

And before you seal it all with the PVA spray, get a stiff brush and hit it hard in areas where you want to wear it away to show the texture beneath.

And you can always go back and put a second layer on in areas where you want thicker grass.

Thanks for bringing the thread back on track Charlie and I'll have a go at what you suggest, though the thought of using the vacuum cleaner is  a good one so maybe I'll do both.

[Wargamer Dave]

Thanks Captain. I will go through those again.

[OSHIROmodels]

See what I mean,though I didn't expect this from you Steve 

You haven't been here long enough ...

 

cheers

James

[Mason]

Ahh right, that makes perfect sense now thank you. Though if Paul or Dirk read this I can see the whole thread plummeting to depths unheard of because of the mention of ladies under crackers .

 

See what I mean,though I didn't expect this from you Steve 

You haven't been here long enough ...

 

Listen to Bibbles, he knows the score.
Me and Dirty Dirky are only joshing with you, it is Balaclave Boy and Lofty that you really have to watch out for.
Those two are dangerous.

You have been warned!

Thanks for bringing the thread back on track Charlie......

That bit made me laugh more than the rest.
Back on track?
Indeed......
 

[Mason]

Regarding the washes: Just do what the good Captain says and build them up gradually with thin washes.
Easier to gently build them up to the colour that you want them to have to dull them down by overdoing it.

Another option, to really muddy the waters, is to apply a thin coat of water to the area then add a small amount of ink/paint to it and spread it out as desired. This way you can gradually fade the wash into the surrounding colour.

You probably did not need to hear another option, though, did you?
 


As for flocking: I would just apply glue, add a little flock by sprinkling and wait to dry.
Brush off any excess and take a look at the result.
If you want to increase the density of the flock simply repeat the process until you are happy.

If there is too much flock just brush it again as you will keep removing some every time it is brushed until you seal it.
For the record: I have never used any form of hosiery whilst applying flock. 'Burlesque Bibbles' is is just weird....



I bet the next time you do a terrain project you wont ask for any advice as you are probably receiving far too many options by now.