Sub Machine Gun Question

[Hammers]

I think you are thinking of the FG42. That more of an early assault rifle since it has selective fire and smaller calibre bullets.

Bah. What Moose said.

[former user]

actually not - no way mistaking the early assault rifle for a SMG

but it could be the FJ SMG I recall is rather the italian Beretta one issued

ah here:

MP 36, prototype
Mag well canted 30° to the left
http://www.smallarmsreview.com/january.htm


maybe this one?

[Plynkes]

Maybe
there was a Bergman prototype made by Schmeisser that quite resembled the MP36 and later models, but with the magazine well to the side.
Don't know if it was called MP 34 or not, but it was not taken into large production because of the eypensive machined parts. Don't know about production numbers.

The SMG officially designated the MP 34 was built by Steyr rather than Bergmann, but it ressembled all the other MP 18 derivatives, more or less...


MP 34

Bergmann also had a gun called the MP 34, it eventually became the official MP 35, which again looks just like all these other confusing Bergmann-types, rather than like an MP38...


MP 35

[cdr]

maybe the Schmeisser MP28/II ?
used in the Belgian army

[former user]

  a whole lot of SMG to match a memory
the most interesting part for me is how many actual SMG a weapon with wooden stock, barrel mantle and side mag can represent on a model

thx - many interesting contributions

[Arlequín]

There were certainly copies of the Sten (e.g. the Gerät Potsdam) made by the Germans btw! However the 'Bergmann' is the most copied side loader and has been used in many movies; the 'Mummy Returns' and 'Biggles' for example.

[Trooper]

If the troops were German, and from the weapon description, it sounds more like the Bergmann or the Schmeisser made version thereof. The box magazine version. The version with the snail drum mag was issued to the stormtroopers of WWI. After the mp38 was issued to the army, the Bergmanns were phased out from frontline use and many of them were issued to Polizei/anti partisan formations. There are photos of polizei troops using them during the Warsaw uprising. A lot of confusion arises from the fact that Allied material constantly identified the mp 38 and mp40 as a schmeisser, when in fact they were designed and made by ERMA, The key differences being the absence of a wooden stock, replaced by a folding metal stock, and the increased use of stamped metal parts. Although the mp 38 had Bakelite grips on the pistol grip, these were phased out with the mp40. It sounds as if the picture was too early to be the fg42 or even a sten. 

[Blackwolf]

I think you are thinking of the FG42. That more of an early assault rifle since it has selective fire and smaller calibre bullets.

Bah. What Moose said.

  Actually the FG 42 fired full calibre (7.92) bullets as opposed to the MP 44 which fired kurz (7.92)or 'short' bullets,and the SMGs mentioned which pistol calibre bullets,generally 9mm.