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Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 2 JULY)
« Reply #45 on: 10 July 2010, 11:04:07 PM »
Phase 3…

On the fourth (kraal) board, the hills are assembled from foam offcuts, glued into position, sanded to roughly the right shape, and then ‘plastered’ with wall filler.





The kraal is ‘woven’ with hemp string, and the whole thing given a saturating coat of PVA to fix everything in position. I was going to basket weave the kraal from the bottom of the stakes to the top, but having looked at various photographs, this style of more open weave fencing seemed just as common.



The two 'village end' boards are then finished with a top coat of PVA / sand / paint texture, and various grades of grit and bits of rock added to form small rocky outcrops on top of the hills, and areas of scree around the foot of the slopes...









The edges of the foam slabs are sealed with PVA glue to stop them melting under the paint primer spray.

The two boards are then sprayed matt black.

Here then, is the full layout.





That's 8 feet (2.4m) long x 3.5 feet (1m) wide...




There will be native huts around the kraal, and a forest of tambookie grass around the edges of the village - which explains why there is currently a rather flat and featureless area at one end of the board.



The joins between the four boards look rather obvious at this stage. They will look a lot less obvious once painted and weathered, and the vegetation and buildings are on.
Not to mention, once the boards are properly supported on a complete table, rather than all precariously perched on one small table as they are here  ::)

And that's the construction phase substantially finished...  :)

Next task will be the more interesting business of painting the whole lot, before moving onto the 'greening' stage...

Watch this space  ;)

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #46 on: 10 July 2010, 11:10:44 PM »

That's really cool stuff Richard. Looking forward the finished product... I'm sure it will look good 8)
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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #47 on: 11 July 2010, 01:42:24 AM »
Everything looks so natural - a great looking table.

Could you go into a little more detail with the PVA / sand / paint texture please? As in rough quantities and ratios.

I am assuming this is your magic goop used in your ECW boards as well.

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #48 on: 11 July 2010, 07:52:46 AM »
You certainly are The Man, Richard ;) I am looking as much forward to see this finished as I enjoy the various progress reports.
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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #49 on: 11 July 2010, 08:07:16 AM »
That looks great, it's going to be interesting to see how the table develops. Are you going to glue the tambookie grass on to the board, or is it going to be mounted on separate bases? And if it's going to be on the board how will models move through it? Just curious...
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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #50 on: 11 July 2010, 08:44:47 AM »
Amazing  :o :o :o :o :o

How do you store all these masterpieces of yours?

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #51 on: 11 July 2010, 12:33:03 PM »
Fantastic.   8)

Ingenious use of hemp cord weaving to make the wattle palisade, which idc I shall steal for my Native American village!  ;D
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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #52 on: 11 July 2010, 02:57:53 PM »
The only thing that's seen this thread get to four pages without singing a few hosannas about this project is that I've been offline for four weeks travelling for work... So, belatedly:

 :-*  :o  :P and so on.

Very much looking forward to seeing how this turns out and, with a bit if luck, seeing it later this year.

More please Richard!

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #53 on: 11 July 2010, 06:08:24 PM »
Ah, he hasn't mentioned the boards are finish painted as they will be used for a moonless night engagement!   lol
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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #54 on: 11 July 2010, 11:28:34 PM »

Could you go into a little more detail with the PVA / sand / paint texture please? As in rough quantities and ratios.


Truthfully, it's a bit hard to say, because I just mix it up to what feels about right, adding different amounts of paint and sand as the main ingredients, with a generous helping of PVA into the mix to really bind it together and make sure it dries to an almost plasticised surface.
I suppose roughly, it's one cup sand to two cups of emulsion paint to half a cup of PVA.
If it comes out a bit thin, just add a bit more sand until the mixture 'stiffens up' slightly.
If it's a bit too solid, just add in a little more paint or PVA to make it easier to work with.
You're looking for a fairly wet paste - wet enough to slap on with a paintbrush, but thick enough to cover well.
It's trial and error really.
I use builders sand / sharp sand with most of the bits of grit sieved out, and then a few small bits added back in again to enhance the texture. I think fine sand would make too smooth a paste consistency.

You can see what it looks like when wet in this thread here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=7778.0

Are you going to glue the tambookie grass on to the board, or is it going to be mounted on separate bases? And if it's going to be on the board how will models move through it? Just curious...
Duncan

I'm undecided. I'm having trouble finding the right thing for clumps of tambookie grass - I've got several possibilities, from plastic aquarium grass to clumps of Woodland Scenic fibres of various denominations, which I'd have to spike straight into the board. I even bought some 1/35 scale grass tufts which were optimistically advertised as 12 - 18mm tall, when in fact, they're nothing like...  >:(
What I really need is someone to make some genuinely big grass tufts - like 25mm - 30mm tall.
If anyone knows of such a thing, or can give me a good suggestion, please feel free!  :)

How do you store all these masterpieces of yours?

They're all (eventually) going to stand upright, end on, like books in a bookcase on a specially built shelf along the back wall in my garage...  ;)

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #55 on: 12 July 2010, 04:30:13 AM »
paint combed teddy bear fur for your tufts?

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #56 on: 14 July 2010, 10:28:40 AM »
Truthfully, it's a bit hard to say, because I just mix it up to what feels about right

In the future I demand that you use calipers and scales! In Workbench we rely on SCIENCE not what 'feels right' like in some two bit hippie community.  ;)

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I use builders sand / sharp sand with most of the bits of grit sieved out, and then a few small bits added back in again to enhance the texture. I think fine sand would make too smooth a paste consistency.

Do you apply the paste thick enough for the larger pebbles to be push into the goo so you get a even gaming surface?

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #57 on: 14 July 2010, 10:46:12 AM »
Inspirational stuff as always Richard.
Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh already.

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 10 JULY)
« Reply #58 on: 16 July 2010, 01:00:11 PM »
THE TAMBOOKIE GRASS CONUNDRUM - SOLVED!

I’m indebted to Mattspooner, whose VC sniper post the other day, has kindly provided the answer to my ‘how the hell to make tambookie grass?’ dilemma.
Thanks Matt!  ;)

To recap: Aquarium grass is too bright, too plastic-looking, too regular, and too tall to serve.
Grass tufts are (disgracefully!) not available in anything taller than 10mm.
And faffing around with sisal string, paintbrush hairs, or railway modellers ‘reeds’ is just too time-consuming and fiddly to be practical for the expanse of tambookie grass I need to plant at one end of my board.

The solution - suggested by Matt’s post - is fake lawn.
It's a product I'd been unaware of before, which appears to be designed for people who can’t be bothered to mow their grass, and for play areas, office atriums, etc. It is astonishingly realistic from even a few inches away - nothing like the lurid green 'greengrocers' grass of old.

A quick online search brought up literally dozens of companies who make and supply this stuff in all sorts of grades and colours.

I sent an online request for free samples to three suppliers picked fairly randomly - and bugger me, within 24 hours, I had a batch of free sample pieces (8 pieces in total) from all three of them, each piece measuring about 200mm x 100mm. (If only wargames companies were half as responsive as this!)

Here’s a picture of some of them. As you can see, they come in different lengths and grades, from 20mm to around 35mm in height.



And a close-up...



You can see from the reverse that the 'turf' is made up of lots of individual tufts, machine stitched and glued onto a fabric / bitumen backing sheet. Each one of those little bumps is a tuft. That’s a heck of a lot of 28mm sized tufts, even in a sample piece 200mm x 100mm! And in fact, just one of these sample pieces should provide all I need for the purposes of this project.



Here are a few tufts, snipped into individual pieces and blu-tacked upright to form a loose spread of vegetation.




And here with a figure for scale and to show the overall effect  :)




Here’s a test tuft mounted onto a piece of card, textured around the foot of the tuft, and blended with a little flock. I also gave the ‘leaves’ a quick splodge of watered-down GW ‘snakebite leather’ to take the slight plastic shine off, and to make the clump look a little more dried out. (Obviously, I will paint these properly when it comes to making the actual tambookie grass forest).



And here with a figure for scale, from a couple of angles...






I’ve decided that I’ll create the finished tambookie forest by fixing the clumps in place with a hot glue gun. Then I’ll texture round the foot of each clump, intersperse with some shorter tufts, plus  flock, static grass and so on.

The overall effect will look like quite a dense forest of tall grasses - but open enough so that the figures will still be able to move fairly freely through the foliage.

The only slight reservation I have is that because the original product is designed to simulate neatly mown lawn grass, the longer leaves clearly have flat tops, as though mown!

On the whole though, I think I can live with this and put it down to the action of the burning African sun. Not to mention the browsing of elephant and wildebeest!  :D

I think it does the job. What do you think?

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Re: Quite a big African terrain project (UPDATE 16 JULY)
« Reply #59 on: 16 July 2010, 01:09:54 PM »
That rocks! Can you recommend any company names to buy from?

 

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