What is the best set of rules for this period?

[abikapi2]

Hi,

I'm interested to know several opinions, expecially if someone ha played more than one system, about ruleset that are used for this period.

Thank You 

Stefano

[Poliorketes]

I guess you won't be surprised that you aren't the first to ask (nor the last, I bet). If we get enough input here I make this a sticky topic.

There is no 'best set'. Much depends on the number of miniatures you want to use, the style of game you prefer and last but not least the fact that some rulesets are rather good to play, but impossible to understand without help. Don't expect a load of rules with army lists, most have some generic entries for the early 20th century and only very few have lists for BoB, and some of these are pure Fantasy.

Here are the rules I know (more or less):

Contemptible little Armies (CLA). The CLA supplement Back of Beyond gave the setting it's name. Never played the rules, barely understood them. The Army lists in the BoB-supplement are pulp-sytle fantasy, but if you like this approach you'll find them useful for other rules, too.

Price of Glory (PoG) - the WW1-Version of Disposable Heroes. Good rules for 20-50 miniatures, though they suck when it comes to close combat (a problem with several systems). Shooting is deadly in the open (especially with HMG), so you need much terrain. Easy to learn, sadly there are only generic unit stats inside. using BoB as a guideline will help a lot to design your Armylists. I used to play this system until T&T arrived, but I think both are equally suited.

Triumph & Tragedy (T&T). The rules I use. You can use them with pulp-style heroes or without, both ways work well. It fills the same niche as PoG, with the same pros and cons. The main difference is the card-driven turn sequence, which gives it a slight edge about PoG.

Warhammer the Great War. 40K with both sides playing imperial guard infantry armies, which isn't bad at all. Strongly recommended for larger games. Again, no lists for BoB.

[Ignatieff]

'Setting the East Ablaze'. In house rules of The League of Extraordinary Kriegspielers.  Pulpy, but written by very experienced historical wargames.  Work for games of a few dozen figures to many hundreds.  Also benefit from being free.

[coggon]

I have a copy of Ignatieff's rules-read them but not tried them out yet.  They certainly do have the right 'feel' to them.  (the "Table of Terror" is pure genius!)

Have played several games using TFL's "Mud and Blood" with a few tweaks and had a great time with them.  Not sure yet if how well they would work in the multi-sided games that Igntieff runs (and I dream about)

For me at least, its all about plot-a good plot makes the game in BOB-which reminds that Ignatieff really should do a scenario book and put his campaign system into writing 

[WuZhuiQiu]

'Setting the East Ablaze'. In house rules of The League of Extraordinary Kriegspielers.  Pulpy, but written by very experienced historical wargames.  Work for games of a few dozen figures to many hundreds.  Also benefit from being free.

Where can these rules be found?

Thanks!

[Ignatieff]

Where can these rules be found?

Thanks!

Pm me your email and I'll forward them to you.

[Ataman]

Pm me your email and I'll forward them to you.

Mind if I take a look at them as well?

email: adi_piecyk@hotmail.com

[Ignatieff]

Mind if I take a look at them as well?

email: adi_piecyk@hotmail.com

Of course.  I'll email everyone when I get home this evening.

[opa wuttke]

World at war: Back of beyond

[Stecal]

I second using Mud & Blood.  TFL also has another rules set for the immediate post WW1 era (Russian CW, German Spartakists & Freicorps, etc) called "Triumph of the Will"

Have also used Great War.

I found CLA & Price of Glory to be too bloody, but the CLA back of Beyond army lists are very useful.

[Siaba]

Ignatief rules seems very good for a demo game involving newcomers to the hobby. With experienced players, I prefer TRIUMPH OF THE WILL.

[abikapi2]

Thank You to everybody for all Your replies.

I'll evaluate them carefully.

Stefano

[cuprum]

That's also interesting rules:

battle:
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/redactions.html

campaign:
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/beyond.html

[General]

I'd love to see the rules as well!

e-mail:  BuckerooSouthern@yahoo.com

[Whitewolf]

If it is not too much trouble I would welcome a peek at the rules too:

danderson1964@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance