A 15th Century Byzantine Project (20/06 p3 - Militia Unit Complete)

[Tonhel]

Impressive

[commissarmoody]

Wow, they look great! 
Did you use the steelfist Tudor dolls as a base? Where did you get the heads and arms from?

[Sirolf]

Amazing job. Captures the time period perfectly. Also lovely colorful unit on the field!

[Peter Rathgeb]

Yes the cavalry are already cast I have quite a few foot figures coming that will be cast once I get a slot.
They have interchangeable heads so should allow a nice mix.

Are you already taking "orders"? I would be very interested!
Cheers,
Peter

[Atheling]

Are you already taking "orders"? I would be very interested!
Cheers,
Peter

Me too! 

[Cyrus the Great]

I, too, would be very interested in the near future!

[Condottiere]

Are you aware of Timothy Dawson's By the Emperor’s Hand: Military Dress and Court Regalia in the Later Romano-Byzantine Empire? It has a section on the 15th Century, though not as much as pre-1204 stuff.

[commissarmoody]

Are you aware of Timothy Dawson's By the Emperor’s Hand: Military Dress and Court Regalia in the Later Romano-Byzantine Empire? It has a section on the 15th Century, though not as much as pre-1204 stuff.

Wow, that does look like a great find.

[Condottiere]

Wow, that does look like a great find.

It's a decent book and while there's an obvious focus on court dress, the military clothing is usually a simplified version, though could be just as ornate.

[HappyChappy439]

Thanks everyone!

Wow, they look great! 
Did you use the steelfist Tudor dolls as a base? Where did you get the heads and arms from?

Thanks! I used the Steel Fist Tudor Dollies for some of them (mostly to compensate for lack of confidence with sculpting large areas of cloth!), I've labelled each of them just to make it easier to describe:



1: Perry Italian Light Infantry body, WotR plastic infantry soft-cap head
2: Steel Fist Tudor Dolly body, Perry WotR infantry arms, WotR infantry command-frame soft-cap head
3: Steel Fist Tudor Dolly body, Perry WotR infantry arms, Perry Italian head
4: Steel Fist Tudor Dolly body, Gripping Beast Arab Light Cavalry Arms, WotR infantry command-frame soft-cap head, Perry Stradiot shield
5: Steel Fist Standing Tudor Dolly body, Perry WotR infantry arms, Perry Swiss head
6: Plastic Perry WotR infantry body, WotR Bill arms (with the bill removed and a TAG Ottoman Scimitar added), Perry Italian head, Perry Stradiot shield
7: Metal Perry standing billman body, Perry Swiss head
8: Perry Italian Light Infantry body, Perry Swiss head, Perry Stradiot shield
9: Perry Italian Light Infantry body, WotR plastic infantry soft-cap head
10: Steel Fist Standing Tudor Dolly body, Perry Agincourt French Infantry arms, Gripping Beast Arab Light Cavalry head
11: Metal Perry standing billman body, WotR plastic infantry soft-cap head
12: Perry Italian Light Infantry body, WotR infantry command-frame soft-cap head

The Italian Light Infantry bodies all have longer coats sculpted on with Green Stuff, and all the heads have beards (and modified hats) sculpted on, aside from the one Gripping Beast head. Hopefully that helps!

It's a decent book and while there's an obvious focus on court dress, the military clothing is usually a simplified version, though could be just as ornate.

Thanks for the suggestion! Rookie question but do they give sources for the interpretations for the equipment in the book? I'm guessing they're based on church frescoes, I'd be curious to see which ones they're using!

Are you already taking "orders"? I would be very interested!
Cheers,
Peter

Not specifically about the sculpts being on-order, but there's a second project-thread with the excellent Anderson Collection sculpts and conversions up and running now too, to signal-boost the work there as well!
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=131911.0

[commissarmoody]

Thanks for the answering the build question. Again, they look great.

[Atheling]

That has to be on e of the clearest and most useful conversion "how to's" that I've seen in a while. Nice and clear if you know the miniatures. 

[commissarmoody]

So did this project end here? Or is it just hibernateing? 

[Arche Seleukeia]

Fantastic project, very excited to see more.

[Atheling]

Fantastic project, very excited to see more.

Indeed, in full recognition of just how deep the research would have to go into such an "obscure" (to Western European eyes anyway), it would be wonderful to see more if possible