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What 28mm ranges do people want the most?

North Korean
15 (18.8%)
South Korean
4 (5%)
Western Insurgents
34 (42.5%)
Generic Military
27 (33.8%)

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Offline arget8

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #120 on: 28 July 2015, 09:45:51 PM »
I am planning on finding US and UK distributors for sure, possibly even one in Oz. I'm based in the US and have been discussing things with a potential distributor. However, as this project is still in the brainstorming/planning phase, there is plenty of time to sort things out.

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #121 on: 29 July 2015, 12:38:41 PM »
How does this look for the IDF?

IDF: 20 Unique Poses
-   Firefight (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
-   Skirmish (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
-   Patrol (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
-   Command (Commander (TAR-21), PSG (TAR-21), Marksman (SR-25), Medic (TAR-21)

I wouldn't like to offer a definitive opinion... but I might swap out one guy in one pack with a Matador, for one marksman, giving you two of each overall. Otherwise it seems to be a good mix.

On a seperate note... I've always wondered why nobody has modelled their unsurgents on something like the 'Michigan Militia Corps Wolverines', or the bad guys in the movie 'Red State'. I would think you couldn't get any more irregular-looking irregulars and dressed for a more temperate climate than the ME too.

Offline arget8

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #122 on: 29 July 2015, 01:40:22 PM »
What I'm thinking with this organization for the IDF packs is that people will buy two of the troop packs and the command pack for each squad. What this will provide is:

Firefight (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Skirmish (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Command (Commander (TAR-21), PSG (TAR-21), Marksman (SR-25), Medic (TAR-21)


Patrol (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Skirmish (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Command (Commander (TAR-21), PSG (TAR-21), Marksman (SR-25), Medic (TAR-21)


Patrol (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Firefight (1x TAR-21, 1x TAR-21 w/UGL, 1x Negev, 1x TAR-21 w/MATADOR)
Command (Commander (TAR-21), PSG (TAR-21), Marksman (SR-25), Medic (TAR-21)

What this will do is provide each squad with

3x TAR-21
2x TAR-21 w/UGL
2x Negev
2x MATADOR
1x TAR-21 (Medic)
1x Marksman

This will convert to squads as such

1x TAR-21 (Squad Leader)

1x TAR-21
1x TAR-21 w/UGL
1x Negev
1x MATADOR
1x Medic

1x TAR-21
1x TAR-21 w/UGL
1x Negev
1x MATADOR
1x Marksman

This will leave one extra command rifle from each squad. However at least one, if not two will be used for the platoon commander and platoon sergeant. This will only officially leave you with one extra rifleman. However, these teams are five men strong, meaning that they are likely paper strength. The rifleman in each squad could be removed or anyone else could be, I suppose. The idea is to provide the least wastage, which I think has been done here as there is only one left over figure based on paper strengths. Also, the extra rifleman could be added to the squad if you want to run the big squads that are apparently possible.


What do you guys think?

Offline Dangerdaz

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #123 on: 29 July 2015, 07:54:50 PM »
I dont like duplicate figures in 28mm so i would only buy 1 pack of each.
But looks good 8)

Offline arget8

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #124 on: 29 July 2015, 07:59:27 PM »
I dont like duplicate figures in 28mm so i would only buy 1 pack of each.
But looks good 8)

If this were the IDF as planned you would get a total of one squad and an understrength fire team. If I do them I will do them with separate heads with their strange helmet covers and netted helmets, which would give them a little more variation.

On another note, I've been keeping a very basic tally of what people are requesting. This is what people clamor for:

Koreans- 7
Civilians- 6
IDF- 10
JDF- 4
Western Insurgents- 7
NATO countries- 3
Female Soldiers- 2
Generic 2nd and 3rd world (Middle East, Africa, South America, SE Asia)- 13
South Africa- 1
France- 4
Germany- 3
Canada- 5


Right now, the generic army is ahead by a pretty good margin with the IDF and Western insurgents up next. I am considering doing one range at a time to make the project more manageable time and money-wise. If anyone hasn't weighed in yet, please do so now as I am starting to cut this list down at the end of the week. I may make a poll later as well once it is cut down to four or five.
« Last Edit: 29 July 2015, 08:06:04 PM by arget8 »

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #125 on: 29 July 2015, 08:00:04 PM »
Definitely like the sound of all of this!

Has a sculptor been ID'd yet?

And I'd really like to see sprues of the weapons made available - M16's, AKs etc are fairly common out there, but G3's and Tavors are pretty rare! Pretty please?  :) ;D

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #126 on: 29 July 2015, 08:22:20 PM »
I don't know if it shows up for you, but I can add a poll to this thread if you wish? Just let me know if/what/when and I'll be happy to do it.  :)

Offline arget8

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #127 on: 29 July 2015, 08:32:02 PM »
That would be great, thanks. I'll let you know when I want to start it.

I have not nailed down who will be sculpting, but it is in the works. I'll probably be going with a digital sculptor, but nothing is set in stone yet.

As to separate weapons, it is possible, but unlikely to happen upfront.

Offline DeltaBravo

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #128 on: 31 July 2015, 08:31:03 AM »
Just an FYI, I have 28mm IDF in the works, and there are Stan Johansen's new IDF too.  

I don't want to derail your thread with my own stuff but equally just thought I'd give you a heads up.  http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=392701 & http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/.  I'll have 'generics' but they'll be geared more to 70s and 80s I suspect.  You're going with a more ultra modern look I think?  (I hope, as I've deliberately not planned modern Syrians etc)
« Last Edit: 31 July 2015, 10:36:24 PM by DeltaBravo »

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #129 on: 31 July 2015, 09:59:08 AM »
It comes up with 'topic not found ' on TMP,  for me at least.

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #130 on: 31 July 2015, 10:06:34 AM »
Same here, but when I found it the address was in fact: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=392701

I'm guessing the ; was the problem.
« Last Edit: 31 July 2015, 10:08:13 AM by Arlequín »

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #131 on: 31 July 2015, 01:34:34 PM »
If someone else is already enroute to releasing modern IDF then would that make the generic troops with multi head options the most logical product to develop?

Offline arget8

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #132 on: 31 July 2015, 01:45:43 PM »
Just an FYI, I have 28mm IDF in the works, and there are Stan Johansen's new IDF too. 

I don't want to derail your thread with my own stuff but equally just thought I'd give you a heads up.  http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=392701; http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/.  I'll have 'generics' but they'll be geared more to 70s and 80s I suspect.  You're going with a more ultra modern look I think?  (I hope, as I've deliberately not planned modern Syrians etc)



My generics should allow for troops from the 80's until everyone in the world stops wearing Chicom rigs and BDUs. The plan is to make them suitable for the early eighties onward. Pretty much from the point when cargo pockets were put on combat trousers to the near future. I want to create them as generic as possible so they have the widest versatility. The eventual plan is to create generic troops with Syrian/Soviet/PASGT style body armor, but men without armor are the most versatile with second and third world militaries.

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #133 on: 31 July 2015, 10:35:13 PM »
Thanks Jim.  Type in haste, repent at leisure...

Noted Argent, sounds like we'll only have a very slight overlap then.  Shame you're not UK based, would've been good to collaborate.  Enjoy the commissioning process, my wife is grumpy at the amount of time it's taking up!

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Re: Most Desired 28mm Modern Ranges
« Reply #134 on: 01 August 2015, 03:57:15 PM »
Mhmm...

not spoil anyone hopes, but looking around I have felt the generic troop even with options, less attractive, especially if compared to national ranges and especially if they are the first thing coming out from a new company. Do not misunderstand me, but from chat I have had in the end they appears to be poor sellers, notwithstanding their usefulness, or comments on various forums. My own to pennies on the topic is that, while they are useful to people like us, they lack the attraction to the slightly larger crowd of buyers; maybe it is just a consequence of "who are they?" and the fact that you have to put your own imprint on them rather than just being spoon fed (maybe I am just projecting student attitudes around  :D ).

White Mike Bravo doing IDF, I would suggest to go for the Koreans and as soon as possible for the generics to have at least a trademark range.

Of course I am not putting money on the plan so I am not risking anything with my suggestions...  lol so take it 'Cum Grano Salis'.
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